Why is weed a sin

[hopeinGod]

Gynecomastia can be corrected with a simple outpatient surgery. Smoking causes many cancers, and they can be deadly.

I've had the surgery once, and prior to it I suffered with daily pain. The cause, for me, is the lack of testosterone and the use of PPIs and H2 receptors for GERD. It can, and does, return for some men, as I was told by my doctor.

 

[GodActsOnMe]

Marijuana is spiritually dangerous. It opens doors to the realms and power of the enemy, and it can bring demonic forces into your life. Those who think it is harmless do not understand the spiritual implications of what they're doing, or how it is really impacting their life. Marijuana is also dangerous mentally, as it has caused many people to experience psychotic breaks and it contributes to mental illness overall. I have witnessed this first hand in the life of a loved one. Do not play around with this or any other drug.

That's actually true. A minuscule amount of people do experience psychotic breaks. Just as some people get very violent and disruptive when they drink alcohol. However, long-term usage is also not much of a problem. Cannabis is not a chemically addicting drug, so a person can stop smoking it without a withdrawal.

I fail to see how a drug that substitutes happiness in your brain is a spiritually "damaging" drug. If that's the case, what about alcohol?

 

[thesunisout]

It's not a sin. God invented it for a reason, however I should like to think that He's allowed its strict regulation in society because we're not yet mature enough to understand how to use it with discretion and in the proper situations. It is illegal in the US, therefore it is a sin in that we are to obey the laws of man unless they conflict with the laws of God (Romans 13). There is a time and place for everything, and if God had no purpose for things like opium or marijuana they wouldn't exist. Good luck trying to get brainwashed conservative Christians to understand that though. Heck, the last time I suggested this concept on this forum I got accused of having an addiction despite the fact that I clearly stated it's not okay to use these herbs and plants in the US and that I do not use any drugs.

Scripture tells us to be sober-minded, so this really has nothing to do with maturity or discretion as you are describing it. It has to do with obedience to Gods word. God created many different kinds of plants, including ones that can be deadly if consumed. Just because God created something doesn't mean that it's automatically good for us to use any way we wish. There are also good ways and bad ways to use something. Sex outside of marriage is a good example of that. Just because something feels good, doesn't mean it is good. Sin is always pleasurable for a season. The error is to think that you understand why God created Cannabis, when you really don't. What we do know is how God told us to live, which is to be holy as He is holy. That means giving up our fleshly cravings and desires, and leaning entirely upon the Lord for all of our spiritual and physical needs.

 

[thesunisout]

That's actually true. A minuscule amount of people do experience psychotic breaks. Just as some people get very violent and disruptive when they drink alcohol. However, long-term usage is also not much of a problem. Cannabis is not a chemically addicting drug, so a person can stop smoking it without a withdrawal.

I fail to see how a drug that substitutes happiness in your brain is a spiritually "damaging" drug. If that's the case, what about alcohol?

Marijuana is a psychologically addicting drug. Scripture says this about addiction:

For speaking out arrogant words of vanity they entice by fleshly desires, by sensuality, those who barely escape from the ones who live in error, promising them freedom while they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by what a man is overcome, by this he is enslaved. (2 Peter 2:18-19)

By what a man is overcome, that he is enslaved, and we are not be mastered by anything. I would say the same thing about alcohol. Scripture tells us to be sober-minded, which means do not get high or drunk. We should abstain from anything which is altering our minds.

Marijuana has been used by practitioners of the occult for centuries to put them in tune with Satanic forces. There is something about the drug which opens doors to those realms, just as a psychedelic would, and therefore it is spiritually dangerous for Christians, or anyone, to use it. I have heard numerous accounts of people being attacked in the spirit while they were high, and even more accounts of people becoming mentally ill after extended usage. It is nothing you should play around with.

 

[versesvsvices]

Marijuana is a psychologically addicting drug.

A lot of things as psychologically addicting. Food is psychologically addicting.

I won't argue against the rest of your post--just wanted to be sure that was pointed out.

I assumed that altering your mind with substances would be a sin, but when I tried to look up some verses to back that up these are what I came up with:

Proverbs 31:6-7
Give strong drink to the one who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress; let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more.

But then there are a bunch of quotes that say drunkenness is bad... which is specifically over-consumption of alcohol, not marijuana. All the websites specifically written on this subject seem like outright propaganda to me.

I'll have to put down my opinion on this topic as undecided.

 

[goldshift]

Havent read all the preceeding pages but I will say that if you agree that weed is anathema to the christian walk then you also cannot consume the following:

Amino acids
Caffeine
Alcohol
Herbal remedies such as St John's Wort and Valerian

All these things alter ones consciousness in varying degrees. Marijuana is a complex thing. I personally have had a pseudo-spiritual episode in which I believed that a demon was tryng to engage me in conversation. Was that real or imagined? Could that happen with any other drug?

The point is that any mind altering substance weakens inhibitions and at some level that makes you more prone to spiritual assault. Its the DEGREE that counts. Obviously heroin is going to breach your defenses more than valerian

Imo the only argument against marijuana is this one. Does it make you fair game for the demonic realm? Its a complex question and one which noone has ever satisfactorily answered.The other arguments against health concerns are moot since they're irrelevant if you exercise self control... point is can you do so. I had a near miss with a psychological addiction.



I would say that the brain actually produces cannibinoids naturally. All cannabis does is interact with the endogenous system a system which is designed to receive thc etc. Of course all drugs do this. MDMA interacts with the serotonergic system and cocaine the dopaminergic system. Cannabis is slightly different however.

What I wonder is whether God prohibits use of weed to get closer to him. I used it purely recreationally and thus perhaps left myself open. If it were used in a spiritual context would that not remove the danger? Speculation speculation

 

[michaelsoleim1]

no, smoking weed is not a sin. It's as big of a sin as smoking a cigarette, or drinking alcohol. No where in the Bible does it say "smoking marijuana is going to send you to hell." I have been a Christian my whole life and I have realized that a whole lot of ignorance is in the church. you said the verse, Thou shall not be drunk of wine, well he isnt getting drunk. Of anything it should be hailed more than anything that is legal. Nobody smokes weed and says, "im going to try meth and heroin" or "man im mad, im going to beat my wife" that doesnt happen. all that happens is that they chill out. Since people on this thread are paraphrasing bible verses and quoting their parents, in Genesis it also says God gave men all the beasts of the land and the plants of the field. So obviously it is our choice whether we smoke weed or not but will not condemn us to hell. There are plenty of Christians, especially pastors, who mistreat and sexually abuse women and young children for years and people think they are nothing but great until their secret is uncovered. So there is much, MUCH more to be worried about with life than smoking weed. It isnt mind altering at all and you would know that if you ever smoked it. Tobacco is just as mind altering because it is a depressant and slows down the electric signals that transfer information in the CNS. Do not blindly follow people just because they are in a position of power, if you are that worried about it try it for yourself so that you have your own stance on it. I will gladly respond to any questions or comments.

 

[thesunisout]

no, smoking weed is not a sin. It's as big of a sin as smoking a cigarette, or drinking alcohol. No where in the Bible does it say "smoking marijuana is going to send you to hell." I have been a Christian my whole life and I have realized that a whole lot of ignorance is in the church. you said the verse, Thou shall not be drunk of wine, well he isnt getting drunk. Of anything it should be hailed more than anything that is legal. Nobody smokes weed and says, "im going to try meth and heroin" or "man im mad, im going to beat my wife" that doesnt happen. all that happens is that they chill out. Since people on this thread are paraphrasing bible verses and quoting their parents, in Genesis it also says God gave men all the beasts of the land and the plants of the field. So obviously it is our choice whether we smoke weed or not but will not condemn us to hell. There are plenty of Christians, especially pastors, who mistreat and sexually abuse women and young children for years and people think they are nothing but great until their secret is uncovered. So there is much, MUCH more to be worried about with life than smoking weed. It isnt mind altering at all and you would know that if you ever smoked it. Tobacco is just as mind altering because it is a depressant and slows down the electric signals that transfer information in the CNS. Do not blindly follow people just because they are in a position of power, if you are that worried about it try it for yourself so that you have your own stance on it. I will gladly respond to any questions or comments.

Are you an American? Then smoking marijuana is a sin because it is outlawed on a federal level. That's the end of the story for Americans.

If you live somewhere else where smoking marijuana is not outlawed, scripture tells us to be sober-minded. You cannot smoke marijuana and be sober-minded. Marijuana is psychologically addictive, and scripture says addiction is bondage to Satan. Habitual drug use is also sin, as indicated by Galatians 5:19-21

Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

The greek word for "sorcery" is pharmakeia, which is where we get our word pharmacy from. It is referring to habitual drug use.

We are also temples of the Holy Spirit. Smoking marijuana is a defilement of our temple.

Finally, smoking marijuana is a stumbling block to our brothers and sisters in Christ, and it ruins the reputation of Jesus Christ to non-believers.

 

[versesvsvices]

It's very possible to use marijuana and be just as sober as one would be when consuming, say caffeine. There are also strains of marijuana that are high in CBD (pain killer) and low on THC (the psychoactive part) so it doesn't get you high. Obviously most people use it to feel intoxicated, but it's important to not over-generalize, especially when it degrades the ill and suffering.

It's also quite easy to use marijuana non-habitually and without becoming addicted. Smoking it is also easily avoidable.

I certainly think a case can be made against consuming any mind-altering substances, I just think it's important to recognize all aspects of something before you defend or condemn it.

 

[DCJazz]

I personally feel that it's best to stay away from gray areas, just in case.

 

[Brent Jones]

It is important for starters that we don't judge our peers, whether they claim to be Christian or not. Only God can do that. Perhaps what you might like to suggest to your friend is that, for starters, his body is a temple - and secondly, what man has bound on earth, He will also bind in Heaven - including the law.

I wish you luck! God bless you.

 

[Rubiks]

It says that "drunkenness" is a sin, so the same should apply to weed

 

[CGL1023]

I posted this somewhere else but I realized I would get alot more responses if it was in here. I posted it in somewhere else I found first.

Hello. I am talking to a guy who smokes weed etc. I told him that it was a sin. He shrugged and said um why. I said that God does not like it when people get high and smoke weed. He said how you know. I said the bible. He said the Bible never actually speaks about Marijuana itself. But I explained there was bible verses that said stuff that made you realize it was indeed a sin. He said he tell me a example then. I thought and thought and searched my mind, then I said, "Though shalt not be drunk with whine." he said he doesnt drink whine and thats not marijuanna.

So why is it a sin? What are the reasons and what are the bible verses. He is still awaiting my awnser and still smoking weed etc. I am having trouble trying to explain to him so I need help, and posts in here i can read and then repeat them to him.

A good list of offenses is given in Gal 5:16-21. 19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Witchcraft historically has included the use of drugs. This would include weed. In addition, we are called to 'renew our mind' and to have the 'mind of Christ'. The use of drugs degrades and impairs our mind and is counter to renewing our mind.

 

[Almighty's humble servant]

A good list of offenses is given in Gal 5:16-21. 19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Witchcraft historically has included the use of drugs. This would include weed. In addition, we are called to 'renew our mind' and to have the 'mind of Christ'. The use of drugs degrades and impairs our mind and is counter to renewing our mind.

Witches smoke pot

Yeah, that'll help the kid.

You do know there are Christians who use canabis to mediate and speak with the Father. They use it to reflect on their sin and better see it. They use it to get a deeper meaning of being one with the body of Christ.

Not all potheads are pagans. And not all canabis users are drunkards.

 

[mike vorbach]

Your friend needs to realize smoking dope is worshipping a false god
Dope gives a sense of false peace as with drinking alcohol & smoking cigarettes
Any form of chemical induced drug into the body to give one peace is false,its only temporal
The peace that comes from God is everlasting Jhn 14:27
The God we serve is the God of Peace Hew 13:20,the Lord of Peace 2nd Thess 3:16 and the gospel we read is the gospel of Peace Roms 10:15
One becomes a worshipper of false peace when one's lifestyle is reliance on
chemically induced substances Ex 20:3
Through the sins of Adam & Eve Satan became the god of this world 2nd corth 4:4,Luke 4:5-6
Satan offered Jesus the world,which was created by Him as today for all mankind to worship him
To really appreciate God's creation one must be BornAgain
You need to show your friend through the scriptures, false peace is a sin against God & pray the Holy Spirit will convict him for repentance

Mike

 

[versesvsvices]

It says that "drunkenness" is a sin, so the same should apply to weed

But it doesn't say that.

Your friend needs to realize smoking dope is worshipping a false god
Dope gives a sense of false peace as with drinking alcohol & smoking cigarettes
Any form of chemical induced drug into the body to give one peace is false,its only temporal

How do you know that? I think you're just assuming things, but if I'm wrong and you have something to back that up I will certainly swallow my words.

To really appreciate God's creation one must be BornAgain

Did God not create all plants?

 

[largeli]

Its not what you put into your body that makes you unclean...but what comes out of your mouth. Thats what the Bible says and thats what I believe. So, if smoking weed or drinking alcohol causes you to sin then maybe you should re-evaluate its place in your life. If it does not cause you to sin, then maybe evaluate what impact it has on your relationship with God. If it hinders your relationship...maybe you ought to consider that. Maybe it improves your quality of life and relationship with others.

There things that some consider sin and others do not. The bible says this. Specifically says this in regards to putting substances in your body actually...it says that if your brothers conscience tells him that eating a certain food is sin....then guess what? To that person it IS sin! BUT...if another does not have a conviction regarding that food then it is NOT sin.

Its very simple but Christians make it a stumbling block when they put their own personal convictions on another.

To the alcoholic drinking is a sin because of what it does to him. To another, maybe a glass of wine with dinner is a blessing! But the bible says we shouldnt use our freedom to make another stumble so if im around the alcoholic, I wouldnt want to tempt him by having a drink in front of him. Its simple.

Be true to your convictions and stop judging others for living in the freedom Christ has givin them.

 

[largeli]

Caffiene is a drug. Most christians I know are addicted to it. I joke and call coffee Christian crack, because it seems a church meeting is never complete unless there are plenty of pots of coffee. Its a very real and physical addiction though. Dont believe me? Try quiting your morning coffee. Most Christians will admit that they cant get their day going unless they have their Christian crack. If they dont get it then they will feel very real and physical drug withdrawal symptoms such as head aches, irritability, lack of energy and motivation, grumpy, etc.

But no one judges you for needing a little pick me up to get your day started. But if you dare use a little of Gods green herb, which God Himself gave for "the service of man", to help you end your day and relax your body and nerves, then you better duck and hide lest you be struck by a stone carrying christian!

Many can quit smoking weed without the slightest of withdrawal symptoms. Not many can quit their caffiene addiction without suffering drug withdrawals...hmmm

 

[mike vorbach]

But it doesn't say that.

How do you know that? I think you're just assuming things, but if I'm wrong and you have something to back that up I will certainly swallow my words.


Did God not create all plants?

Friend I'm coming from a spiritual perceptive.For the God I serve is a spirit Jhn 4:23 For His words are spirit & life Jhn 6:63

As a BornAgain Christian our mind is renewed daily through reading of His word & praying,we think with the spiritual mind of Christ Roms 8:5,Roms 8:7,Roms 12:2,1st corth 1:10, 1st corth 2:16

How do I know? I used to an addict (it all started with the soft drug),delivered not medicine but by the blood of Jesus.Did not even experience "cold turkey" That is how powerful is the cleansing blood of Jesus

The Peace Christ gives a Christian is not the same as the world gives
Put yourself to a test,have one glass of alcohol,be honest, what is the first "feeling" do you experience,how does it the effect your mind
As a believer of Jesus Christ we have everything in Christ Jesus.We do not need to be dependant on our own strength and wisdom
We have Him as our God,Lord,King and Savior.His Holy Spirit as our guide,teacher,comforter and His Word as our comfort, strength & life

As we apply His Words in our lives,Psl 63:1,Prov 8:17,Isa 26:9 we will have the peace & strength to face the new dawn,for His Peace is supernatural,
for He is a supernatural God
It is our will to live to His standard or not,its the results that counts. luke 9:23
The choices we make will determine the outcome in our lives.
I thank God that he had made the choices for us on Calvary we need only believe & follow, for His ways are righteous

Did God not create all plants?
Yes but God created some things for a reason.After the sin of Adam & Eve God created some plants as a sign of a curse for their sins Gen 3:17-19

Mike

 

[mike vorbach]

Its not what you put into your body that makes you unclean...but what comes out of your mouth. Thats what the Bible says and thats what I believe. So, if smoking weed or drinking alcohol causes you to sin then maybe you should re-evaluate its place in your life. If it does not cause you to sin, then maybe evaluate what impact it has on your relationship with God. If it hinders your relationship...maybe you ought to consider that. Maybe it improves your quality of life and relationship with others.

There things that some consider sin and others do not. The bible says this. Specifically says this in regards to putting substances in your body actually...it says that if your brothers conscience tells him that eating a certain food is sin....then guess what? To that person it IS sin! BUT...if another does not have a conviction regarding that food then it is NOT sin.

Its very simple but Christians make it a stumbling block when they put their own personal convictions on another.

To the alcoholic drinking is a sin because of what it does to him. To another, maybe a glass of wine with dinner is a blessing! But the bible says we shouldnt use our freedom to make another stumble so if im around the alcoholic, I wouldnt want to tempt him by having a drink in front of him. Its simple.

Be true to your convictions and stop judging others for living in the freedom Christ has givin them.

The five senses of man are eyes,ears,nose,touch & taste
It was through these five senses satan enticed Eve & Adam to sin
The love of money was the downfall of Judas & Gehazi 1st Tim 6:10,2nd Kings 5:20
It is not what we consider.think or how much sin is but what the Word says is sin
Sin is living in disobedience to Gods Word & to His standard
Friend I was answering a question from a brothers cry for help for a lost soul
If you disagree, Praise the Lord! If you have expressed your views on the topic,Praise the Lord! Let us help our brother by not bickering with one another.
Allow him to make the decision with the guidance of the Holy Spirit,on which advise to follow.
There is a lost soul that needs to be saved,that's our aim as Christian brothers & sisters
It was this purpose I joined CF

Mike