Why is this taught in your churches?

[lovernotafighter]

I was looking at some of the differences between the ELCA and LCMS and a friend told me LCMS believes in 6 day creation. Why? This really turned me off of the church. I mean, science tells us this is impossible, so why must you believe it? Clarification would be nice. Thanks.

 

[QuiltAngel]

Because in Genesis it says that God created the heavens and the earth in 6 days and on the 7th, He rested. By saying it is not possible is putting God in a box.

 

[alexnbethmom]

Because in Genesis it says that God created the heavens and the earth in 6 days and on the 7th, He rested. By saying it is not possible is putting God in a box.

yep, that pretty much sums it up right there....

ever hear the saying "God said it, i believe it, that settles it"? that simple statement you made about "science says it's impossible" - that smacks of evolutionism and with God, NOTHING is impossible....like quilty said, "it's like putting God in a box"....

 

[lovernotafighter]

but why does it have to be interpreted literally?

 

[QuiltAngel]

Well, when God says he did something, who am I to say He didn't? Do I believe Him who has never failed me or science which can and is often inaccurate.

 

[JimfromOhio]

If the biblical creation account is in any degree unreliable, the rest of Scripture stands on a shaky foundation. [FONT=&quot]God began with nothing, and by His Word alone out of nothing made all things. The intellect cannot grasp it. God “spake and it was done, He commanded and it stood fast” (Ps. 33:9). Primeval matter heard His voice. “God said, Let there be… and it was so” (Gen 1).
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[lovernotafighter]

Well, when God says he did something, who am I to say He didn't? Do I believe Him who has never failed me or science which can and is often inaccurate.

I see, Thanks!

 

[JimfromOhio]

but why does it have to be interpreted literally?

Interpreted based on? bias views such as science?

Biblical hermeneutics is the science that teaches the principles and methods of interpreting the Word of God. Proper hermeneutics provide us tools to help ensure that we are basing our interpretations on the truth as God has revealed it, while avoiding error to the greatest degree possible.

 

[Tangible]

lovernotafighter, fwiw I used to have some reservations about this too when I was young. The scientific community can present some very convincing arguments, and they sound so very certain of themselves.

What solidified it for me was that I realized (or maybe heard somewhere) that God is perfectly capable of creating the world to appear as though it were millions of years old, even the fossil record could have been created by God in situ.

Why would he do this? To confound and shame the "wise".

1 Cor 1:27 But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise; God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong; 28 God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are, 29 so that no human being might boast in the presence of God. 30 And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption, 31 so that, as it is written, “Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.”

 

[Independent Lutheran]

I was looking at some of the differences between the ELCA and LCMS and a friend told me LCMS believes in 6 day creation. Why? This really turned me off of the church. I mean, science tells us this is impossible, so why must you believe it? Clarification would be nice. Thanks.

Scripture.

 

[lovernotafighter]

lovernotafighter, fwiw I used to have some reservations about this too when I was young. The scientific community can present some very convincing arguments, and they sound so very certain of themselves.

What solidified it for me was that I realized (or maybe heard somewhere) that God is perfectly capable of creating the world to appear as though it were millions of years old, even the fossil record could have been created by God in situ.

Why would he do this? To confound and shame the "wise".

1 Cor 1:27 But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise; God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong; 28 God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are, 29 so that no human being might boast in the presence of God. 30 And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption, 31 so that, as it is written, “Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.”

So, you believe in a 6,000 year old earth too? Yikes. I don't mean to seem rude, it's just that it goes against pretty much everything about earth science I've ever learned. Can you perhaps give me some sites on people arguing a young earth? Once again, I'm really not trying to be rude, just inquiring.

 

[QuiltAngel]

You can start with answersingenesis.org

 

[filosofer]

So, you believe in a 6,000 year old earth too? Yikes. I don't mean to seem rude, it's just that it goes against pretty much everything about earth science I've ever learned. Can you perhaps give me some sites on people arguing a young earth? Once again, I'm really not trying to be rude, just inquiring.

Howdy. There is nothing in the Bible that says that the earth is 6,000 years old. That was a calculation made by Bishop Ussher a few years ago.

So, again the key is to take Scripture seriously, but not add to it nor subtract from it. Where Scripture is written as narrative then we interpret it as narrative. If it is historical narrative, likewise. So is, the starting point Scripture or science? That will determine the outcome.

BTW, Scripture has never been opposed to science, only that which masquerades as science.

... from an old codger, but who was not around for creation.

 

[DaRev]

So, you believe in a 6,000 year old earth too? Yikes. I don't mean to seem rude, it's just that it goes against pretty much everything about earth science I've ever learned. Can you perhaps give me some sites on people arguing a young earth? Once again, I'm really not trying to be rude, just inquiring.

When we look at the Creation account in Genesis in its context, there is no other meaning that can be implied other than God created the universe and everything in it in six consecuative 24 hour days. When did this occur? What was the mechanics of these daily events initiated by God's word? We do not know. The Bible gives no information on the age of the earth and universe.

 

[jblake]

science tells us this is impossible

From a strictly statistical point of view, both evolution and creation by God are equally unlikely. As far as the respective timelines go, physics is showing the universe to be far more bizarre than anybody ever imagined it to be. Both evolution and creation are extraordinary claims that require, indeed demand, extraordinary proof, if they are not to be accepted on faith alone. If one's faith is that the Bible is God's word, and that the Bible is true, then one accepts that Creation that occurred over six days, on the basis of one's faith.

 

[Zecryphon]

I was looking at some of the differences between the ELCA and LCMS and a friend told me LCMS believes in 6 day creation. Why? This really turned me off of the church. I mean, science tells us this is impossible, so why must you believe it? Clarification would be nice. Thanks.

Question: Has science ever been wrong? Has science ever had to correct previously held beliefs? Here's another question, has God ever made a mistake in anything He's said?

 

[DaRev]

I mean, science tells us this is impossible, so why must you believe it?

"Science" tells us that the resurrection of the dead is impossible, so why must we believe that?

 

[Zecryphon]

From a strictly statistical point of view, both evolution and creation by God are equally unlikely. As far as the respective timelines go, physics is showing the universe to be far more bizarre than anybody ever imagined it to be. Both evolution and creation are extraordinary claims that require, indeed demand, extraordinary proof, if they are not to be accepted on faith alone. If one's faith is that the Bible is God's word, and that the Bible is true, then one accepts that Creation that occurred over six days, on the basis of one's faith.

So creation by God is unlikely. This is what you're telling us? Interesting you would hold both that position and a Christian icon. If you don't believe the creation account in the Bible, what parts of the Bible do you believe? None of it? Some of it?

 

[alexnbethmom]

So creation by God is unlikely. This is what you're telling us? Interesting you would hold both that position and a Christian icon. If you don't believe the creation account in the Bible, what parts of the Bible do you believe? None of it? Some of it?

isn't that commonly referred to as "cherry picking"?

i love the saying "God said it. I believe it. That settles it!!"

 

[QuiltAngel]

With God all things are possible. Just because science may or may not prove it, does not mean it did not happen the way the Bible tells us it did. Science is imperfect.