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Why is there no middle ground in parenting?

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Hi everyone, I'm new here and not really "parenting" yet per se but we are expecting our first little one in January....

I think Bill Cosby said it best when he described how "educated people go to class [or read books] to learn how people do things naturally..."

that's where I'm at. I'm reading and reading and reading everything I can get my hands on to see all of the different parenting types out there so I can be well educated on how to parent my child. I don't want to just lean on what I've been shown by my parents (not that they didn't raise a well-adjusted adult).

The more I read I see that for everything parenting and pregnancy related there are STRICT lines drawn. For instance:

breastfeeding vs. bottle feeding
breastfeeding vs. formula feeding
breastfeeding on demand vs. scheduled breastfeeding
cloth diapers vs. disposable diapers
spanking vs. no spanking
stay-at-home mom vs. working moms
natural birth vs. hospital birth
circumcision vs. no circumcision
and the list goes on....

I see my wife who is still dealing with nausea and sickness and everybody and their brother has a stance they've taken on these issues and more. She hasn't signed on for either side or if she has then she's got to defend herself against some breastfeeding nazi or some other issue nazi who is convinced that there is only ONE way to raise a child.

One individual we know came over to our house, found out we were pregnant and subscribed us to a magazine, which essentially has become her "bible" for raising kids (it's "mothering natural family living" in case you were wondering).

I'm going to say this as PC as I can- this magazine is for idiots. To give you some background- I'm all for the natural health movement and am "Mr. Outdoors/Environment" but this magazine is obviously marketed for people who are incapable of doing research, investigating things before doing them and forming their own opinions. It essentially tells you "raise your kid like this or you are a bad mother" which is of course what every new mother needs to hear.

What I don't understand is why, ESPECIALLY as Christians, we can't:

1.) Do our research

2.) Pray about our decision

3.) Support others in their decisions (regardless of if they agree with ours or not)

I have a friend of mine who reasons with her 1 y.o. and has long conversations whenever he punches his sister. In my opinion, the kid doesn't get it because he immediately goes back and punches his sister again. However, I 100% support their decision to raise their child this way. It may work for them, who am I to judge?

Personally, I want to have a lot of education on different ways to raise children so I can pull ideas from all of them. I feel that I will probably raise each of my children differently, catered to fit their needs. I'm not "pro spanking" and am planning on spanking all my children, but it is one way to deter certain behaviors- it may work for one child and not for another.

I'm a pro-breastfeeding guy too! (we're all boob guys, right?) but even though we're talking about breastfeeding, it's not really good enough- are you going to pump? Are you going to schedule? If you pump are you going to use glass or plastic bottles? Are you going to use a cover? Are you going to on-demand feed? Are you going to wean your child off after a certain amount of time or are you going to allow them to breastfeed until they "self wean" (btw our friend blames her unruly child on the fact that he "weaned himself too early"- either you believe that a child will wean itself naturally at the appropriate time or not- you can't say they will and then say they did it too early!) It's like you are 100% all for a woman ripping her shirt off and flopping her boob into her child's mouth anywhere she wants or you are a formula-feeding neglectful parent who beats their children.

Isn't all this undo pressure something we can do without? Do we have to convince others to believe with what we do? Can't we just educate them and respect the fact that God blessed them with a child and will see them through? Isn't there more than one way to raise a child?

Oh, and PLEASE spare me and every other reader of this thread- don't go Google statistics that support your cause and post them here- for most of the cases listed above there are statistics supporting either side and both sides point to the inaccuracies of the other side's statistics.
 

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HI Siege! Nice to see you:p
Welcome to parenthood. It's like this all the time. I have only found a handful of friends who are truly happy with any decision we've made as parents - even if they are opposite of what they've chosen for their family.
I understand your frustration.

You forgot vax/no vax/delayed vax
homeschooling/public school (shock/faint)/ private school
 
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Welcome to parenting.
In the end you will do what ever suits you and your family. Be open minded to trying new and different approaches, and do what ever works for you.
If you end up bowing to pressure and bring up you children how others want you to do so, and it doesn't turn out right, be assured that they won't take any responsibility for the failure. They are after all your children, and it is your right and responsibility to bring them up as you see fit.
You just have to be prepared for the snubs, huffs, and vocal disapprovals that you will get. That is life.
 
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Relax. There are indeed many different ways for parents to raise wonderful kids. We don't all have to agree

But it can be difficult at times for parents who have made different choices to spend a lot of time together. We very rarely spanked, only for in-your-face defiance, (one child was only spanked once) so spending a lot of time around a family that spanked multiple times a day and for any reason at all, was very scary for our kids. You may not be so patient with the mom who has long talks with her errant child when her kid has slugged yours in the head repeatedly with a toy fire engine. Breast feeding and bottle feeding families function rather differently...

The good thing is that you don't have to make all of these decisions at once, and you can change your mind about them. We made some cut 'n dried decisions that all fell apart once we had an actual child on our hands who had failed to read the same books we had!

Our youngest, 21, just moved out of the house this week. I'm feeling very nostalgic...
breastfeed, family bed, mom at home while baby nurses/ either after, minimal or no spanking, lots and lots of hugging. The other stuff doesn't matter much.
 
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:wave: and ^_^ your post gave me such a giggle!

I too like you read so many books!! I just sold them all at a yard sale last year!! LOL!
The main thing is this : GOD MADE YOU THE PARENTS!!
and forget about anyone else! It's between you, your wife, the baby & God. AMEN!
 
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Why is there no middle ground? Because almost everyone is sure that they are right and you are wrong if you disagree...

Bliz has it right. Basically, if your heart leads you to do it, then do it without reservation. And if your heart says no, avoid it.

Our children were given to us, not to our friends, our parents, our in-laws, or anyone else. There's a reason for that: because God knows they have essentials to learn from us - and we have essentials to learn from them. :)
 
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breastfeeding vs. bottle feeding
breastfeeding vs. formula feeding
breastfeeding on demand vs. scheduled breastfeeding
cloth diapers vs. disposable diapers
spanking vs. no spanking
stay-at-home mom vs. working moms
natural birth vs. hospital birth
circumcision vs. no circumcision
and the list goes on....
Actually, I think the longer you parent and the more kids you have, the less this list means. I've done pretty much everything on this list with the 10 children I've given birth to... lol
 
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Congratulations on the pregnancy :)

I agree with everyone here. You do what's right for you and your family, what works and what fits with your lifestyle. Try not to worry about what everyone else thinks, because everyone will have an opinion on how you should raise your child(ren). And prepare yourself, because you'll probably get even more unwanted opinions once the baby is born. I remember that... most of the time I just smiled and nodded... eyes glazed over as I made to-do lists in my head while they talked...
 
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You sound a little angry and I am not sure what kind of response you are looking for. I've read lots of books that don't talk about any of the things you just mentioned.... cloth diapers or whether to breastfeed or not.... you know honestly those things matter for such a short span of parenting. When you are 20 its going to make a small difference whether you wore cloth diapers or were breastfed. I didn't even know if I had been breastfed until I had my first child, it was the first time I thought to find out.

I think everyone thinks they are middle ground... seriously.... on everything. Parenting. Christianity. You name it. Everyone thinks they are the tempered middle ground. So uhh.... good luck with that? ;)
 
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I must argue that the choice of breastfeeding or not lasts for the lifetime of the child. The research is conclusive - for 90% of babies, breastfeeding will increase IQ. Study results, involving thousands of kids, range from 5.2 points to 11. Those numbers may seem small, but they can make a big difference, especially to a child with a learning disability or a child at the lower levels of IQ.

Breastfeeding also helps keep babies from developing allergies, obesity later in life, minimizes gastrointestinal problems and helps prevent mom getting breast cancer, and helps preemie and low birth weight babies thrive.
 
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Oh, and PLEASE spare me and every other reader of this thread- don't go Google statistics that support your cause and post them here- for most of the cases listed above there are statistics supporting either side and both sides point to the inaccuracies of the other side's statistics.

I was Just about to post and remembered this :p
 
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I must argue that the choice of breastfeeding or not lasts for the lifetime of the child. The research is conclusive - for 90% of babies, breastfeeding will increase IQ. Study results, involving thousands of kids, range from 5.2 points to 11. Those numbers may seem small, but they can make a big difference, especially to a child with a learning disability or a child at the lower levels of IQ.

Breastfeeding also helps keep babies from developing allergies, obesity later in life, minimizes gastrointestinal problems and helps prevent mom getting breast cancer, and helps preemie and low birth weight babies thrive.

But then, one can also argue just how important is IQ. I think you proved what the OP was stating, that no matter what you choice someone out there is going to say you’re doing it wrong and their way is “proven” to be the best and if you don’t do it their way you’re going to screw up your kid.
 
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yeah...statistics can be manipulated to proove or disproove a theory. which is just what they are--theories.

some moms just cannot breastfeed for whatever reason. It doesn't mean that her children are going to be stupid!!

i didn't breastfeed my third child and "statistically" he is above average in his milestones. so spare me the stats!
 
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Here we go again.....

You cannot scientifically know what a person's IQ would have been had the opposite choice been made, there are wonderful reasons to breastfeed (immunities from living milk) but this is not one I count among them because I think its conclusive its a myth....

But yes, how funny that I can't say anything without it becoming a debate...

Point proven.... lol

some moms just cannot breastfeed
Yup, this happens, and it so helps the mothering world to let them know their child will be stupid.

I think I will let my husband know he must be stupid because he wasn't breastfed.... ;)
 
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Oh, and PLEASE spare me and every other reader of this thread- don't go Google statistics that support your cause and post them here- for most of the cases listed above there are statistics supporting either side and both sides point to the inaccuracies of the other side's statistics.

I was Just about to post and remembered this :p

GM, you are so well behaved.... ^_^
 
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Hello to you and what a happy occasion for you that you are going to welcome your first child into this world!

I did get a sense of frustration from your OP. It seems that you are feeling overwhelmed as you navigate the rough waters of transitioning from non-parent to parent. It can be a bit difficult as you are trying to find your groove and you have all these other people trying to enforce their groove onto you.

In all honesty, I don't see it as adversarial. I only see it as people that I am close with being well meaning and caring for me as a person to want to reach out to share what worked for them and what they think may work for me. I do believe as you research more combined with actually parenting your child, you will feel more confident with your choices and will be less likely to see advice as others as pressure.

Good luck to you on your personal journey!
 
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GM, you are so well behaved.... ^_^

It has NOT been easy.
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In all honesty, I don't see it as adversarial. I only see it as people that I am close with being well meaning and caring for me as a person to want to reach out to share what worked for them and what they think may work for me. I do believe as you research more combined with actually parenting your child, you will feel more confident with your choices and will be less likely to see advice as others as pressure.
I see parenting advice in much the same way. When we as parents see something that we're doing actually WORKING we tend to get psyched! We tend to even feel a little proud of our accomplishments. What we tried worked so well that we might find it hard to believe that it wouldn't work for the rest of the world.

I know that not all of my great tips work for everyone, but it sure is exciting to I know that I could be helpful to someone:).

But I know what the OP means about extreme opinions and having them forced upon you. Simply sharing a tip is one thing, being an annoying know-it-all is another. The same can be said for any topic of conversation, not just parenting.
 
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Ladies (I guess other guys aren't as involved in this?) I appreciate your responses... hey, we only got one "Breastfeed or you're a terrible parent" response! I think that's pretty good!

I'm sorry if I do sound frustrated... I guess I am. My wife has a TON of other pressure on her and she doesn't need to hear the following (which she has heard- though I took some liberties with the "exact" quotes):

"If you don't cloth diaper your child then you are doing as much damage as dropping a nuclear warhead on a rainforest every day."

"You aren't going to quit school and be a stay at home mom? Don't come to me when your kid has no moral compass because you aren't home to teach it to him/her!"

"You're not going to on-demand feed after a few months? Who are you to tell your baby when to eat? Don't you eat when you are hungry? I can't believe you're just going to let your child sit there and starve. It's a form of child abuse."

"You will actually consider spanking your child? Better hope nobody sees you or they'll call CPS! Is that how you want your child to respond to things, violently, when they are trying to solve problems?"

She has enough pressures as it is and magazines like the one I mentioned in the OP do NOTHING for first-time mothers. How many of you felt "not good enough" as a new mother? These magazines just promote that! It's such junk!

As we can see from some people's posts, there are strong a opinions about all of these things- and I support your right to have these opinions but why does everyone have to do what you did?!

Regardless of what we do as parents I fully support everyone's right to do what they feel is best for their child- be it formula feeding, spanking, disposable diapers, or whatever. God entrusted you with this child and I know that with His support you'll do great and raise a wonderful God-loving child.

Thank you to those not chiming in with statistics- and especially thank you to those who have said that statistics can be manipulated. After reading some of these mothering magazines I think that mothers must be stupid to read these and think they are quality magazines. Maybe 1/2 their brains fell out when they had their baby... (JUST KIDDING!) You're giving me hope!
 
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