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I can understand it in a certain way because I used to dislike traditions as something that was oppressive and ruining our relationship with Jesus but I tried to be civil when talking to others.As I read some posts in the other thread disrespecting Bishops, a position delineated in the Bible, I could not help thinking of Ghandi's quote, “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Some comments seemed to go well beyond "dislike" of traditional theology.
Some of the things mentioned here were pretty shocking.It was very appalling and sad
Yes, and probably holding a more fundamentalist view of Christianity.
Some comments seemed to go well beyond "dislike" of traditional theology.
I think modern individualism has a lot to do with the indifference and opposition to orthodox doctrines. Instead of looking at what the Church has taught for 2000 years, many in our day have a habit of flipping up their Bible and go: "Hmmmm. What does this verse mean to me?" *Ignores the context*
Are we sure which method is God's prefered method?
Do you come here to complain about stuff?That word "fundamentalist" is either purely pejorative, or it has its historical meaning, referring to people who believe in things like the Resurrection and the Virgin Birth. Which way were you using it?
Because it seems to me that on the first option you were being rude, and on the second you were casting doubt on core shared doctrines.
Apathy and the thought process that "it does not matter, just my relationship to Jesus matters". At least that is the opinion of some people I know, my wife being one. She is happy to attend and go along, but she is not going to do any study of other beliefs or Christian History, much less read anything from the Apostolic Fathers.
This is where the error is made. Those with a thirst for theology and bible study are often seeing their spiritual gifts at work. That’s where it comes from. The hunger and desire are borne of God.
You will have a greater interest doing those things than most. To assume everyone should behave the same is wrong. Its no different from the intercessor who spends hours praying and bemoans those who don’t. That’s unrealistic and so is this.
I think you are reading into my statement to something that is not there, at least in my case. Being apathetic about something does not necessarily mean that she is in the wrong, or I wish she were another way. It simply means she is not interested in that aspect - which is OK. I certainly do not bemoan her feelings or interests nor believe she is in error.
Ah, my mistake - since you were quoting my post I figured it was directed at me. But I know what you mean in that case and would agree.It wasn’t addressed to you personally. That’s a generic you.
But this does happen a lot and many are told there’s something wrong if they aren’t doing the same.
Ah, my mistake - since you were quoting my post I figured it was directed at me. But I know what you mean in that case and would agree.
Without Sacred Tradition, you have no way of knowing what Sacred Scripture even is. The authority of the Church Fathers is how we can recognize writings inspired by God from other types of writings. Without their authority, it would be impossible to know which ancient writings were inspired and which ones were not.I will never follow a tradition
Without Sacred Tradition, you have no way of knowing what Sacred Scripture even is. The authority of the Church Fathers is how we can recognize writings inspired by God from other types of writings. Without their authority, it would be impossible to know which ancient writings were inspired and which ones were not.
Nice deflection.I came to faith in a Jewish synagogue. I didn’t require tradition or the church fathers. Just the Holy Spirit. And He’s kept me since that point.
I don’t bemoan anyone’s approach to God. But to say my faith is influenced by the things you’ve said is wholly false.
Nice deflection.
The Holy Spirit can lead people to faith. Right doctrine, however, is something else.
Your post was borderline off-topic. It had nothing at all to do with my this discussion or my point. So let's try again.That wasn’t a deflection. If it didn’t corroborate your perspective that isn’t my fault.
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