Why is SDA so obsessed with the Sabbath?

[friend of]

They seem to think it's a matter of salvation. How come?

 

[HTacianas]

They seem to think it's a matter of salvation. How come?

It's yet another case of a Hislop-influenced person assuming that all of Christianity has fallen away from the truth and they are on some mission to set all things right. If we give it even a cursory look-see we find that Christianity is a dead religion and for some reason someone decided to revive it centuries after it died out.

 

[fhansen]

They seem to think it's a matter of salvation. How come?

Just another way of trying to stand out from-and above- the crowd. We all like to do it at times I’d say.

 

[Petros2015]

I had an SDA friend give me a breakout of their beliefs a while back; they are not big fans of anything that was papally set (I think - it was a while ago, so I might not be doing this justice). There's more to them than that though. I seem to recall they come down on the annihilation side of hell vs the eternal torment side. A few other places where a different denomination might be fuzzy, or have chosen one particular side they have picked another.

Haven't read this yet, but I would assume it's accurate
What do Seventh Day Adventists Really Believe? - Adventist.org

Seventh-day Adventist Church - Wikipedia

Globally, the Adventist Church operates 7,598 schools, colleges and universities, with a total enrollment of more than 1,545,000 and a total teaching staff of approximately 80,000.[93] It claims to operate "one of the largest church-supported educational systems in the world".[94] In the United States it operates the largest Protestant educational system, second overall only to that of the Roman Catholic Church.[95] The Adventist educational program strives to be comprehensive, encompassing "mental, physical, social and above all, spiritual health" with "intellectual growth and service to humanity" as its goal.

 

[Petros2015]

I think here was the origination

The Seventh-day Adventist Church[a] is an Adventist Protestant Christian denomination[3][4] which is distinguished by its observance of Saturday,[5] the seventh day of the week in Christian (Gregorian) and the Hebrew calendar, as the Sabbath,[4] and its emphasis on the imminent Second Coming (advent) of Jesus Christ. The denomination grew out of the Millerite movement in the United States during the mid-19th century and it was formally established in 1863.[6] Among its co-founders was Ellen G. White, whose extensive writings are still held in high regard by the church.

Millerism - Wikipedia

Sabbatarianism remained a minority position among the Millerites, but the doctrine received a significant boost when Thomas Preble published a tract on the topic. The tract, titled, A Tract, Showing that the Seventh Day Should Be Observed as the Sabbath, Instead of the First Day; "According to the Commandment", was widely read by Miller's followers.

A Tract, Showing that the Seventh Day Should be Observed as the Sabbath, Instead of the First Day

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Maybe because it is God’s holy day that is indisputable.

Exodus 20:10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God.

Isaiah 58:13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath,
From doing your pleasure on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the Lord

God wants us to be like Him and commanded us to keep holy the same day that is holy to Him.

Exodus 20:8. Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy

The Sabbath is meant to be a blessing and a delight and it is. The Sabbath came in a covenant of Ten Exodus 34:28 despite people trying to reduce it to a covenant of one or nine. The Sabbath commandment was written by the finger of God and placed in the ark of the covenant in the Most Holy of God’s Temple which is also revealed in Heaven. Revelation 11:19

We should always obey God’s commandments over traditions. Sabbath keeping is a commandment of God, Sunday keeping is not a commandment of God but a tradition of man. We should always obey God over man. Matthew 15:3-9

There is no scripture that says we are saved with unrepented sin. If you break one commandment you break them all James 2:10-12 so breaking the Sabbath is no different than lying, or committing adultery etc. It’s part of God’s eternal commandments that points out sin. 1 John 3:4, Romans 3:20, Romans 7:7. We have a wonderful and just Savior who wants to forgive us when we are truly sorrowful for our sins and turn from sin. Jesus provides us the Holy Spirit so we can obey. John 14:15-18, Acts 5:32. Love of God is keeping His commandments which is not meant to be burdensome. 1 John 5:3.

 

[trophy33]

They seem to think it's a matter of salvation. How come?

Their so called prophetess Ellen White had a vision of 10 commandments and the one about Sabbath to be over them all.

Thats the real reason why this "last-days movement" is chasing after it so much. All the verses they use around it are just to support the vision.

 

[HIM]

They seem to think it's a matter of salvation. How come?

By the law is the knowledge of sin and Wages of sin is death. The 7th day Sabbath is of the Ten Commandments, the law.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Their so called prophetess Ellen White had a vision of 10 commandments and the one about Sabbath to be over them all.

Thats the real reason why this "last-days movement" is chasing after it so much. All the verses they use around it are just to support the vision.

The Ten Commandment are right in your Bible. Exodus 20 written by the finger of God. I would be more concerned if the vision was saying we do not need to obey God or His laws. That would be worrisome.

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

 

[HIM]

It's yet another case of a Hislop-influenced person assuming that all of Christianity has fallen away from the truth and they are on some mission to set all things right. If we give it even a cursory look-see we find that Christianity is a dead religion and for some reason someone decided to revive it centuries after it died out.

As a whole they have. As was so shall always be until the culmination

 

[HIM]

They seem to think it's a matter of salvation. How come?

And they are not obsessed most of the other sins are not being over looked or ignored by others who profess to be Christians. The Sabbath is.

 

[trophy33]

No vision was needed, the Ten Commandment are right in your Bible. Exodus 20 written by the finger of God. I would be more concerned if the vision was saying we do not need to obey God or His laws. That would be worrisome.

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Without Ellen White and her so called visions there would be no SDA. So it was needed.

She kind of "saved" millerites after the prophecised last days in 1844 did not come.

 

[Freth]

It's not an obsession, it's obedience to God, which scripture supports:

• The saints keep the commandments of God, keep the faith of Jesus and have the testimony of Jesus (which is the spirit of prophecy). Revelation 14:12, Revelation 12:17, Revelation 19:10
• The seventh-day Sabbath is a commandment of God. Exodus 20:8-11
• Sin is transgression of the law of God. 1 John 3:4

It then makes perfect sense why it's an important topic.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Funny people always bring up Ellen White when they disagree with scripture, like Ellen White personally wrote the Ten Commandments when scripture tells us God did, with His own Finger. Exodus 34:28

We will not be judged is we follow or not follow the teaching of Ellen White, but we will be judged based on God’s Word.

 

[trophy33]

Ellen White

I have been visiting SDA for some months many years ago, we also had her books, like the Great Controversy, at home.

They try to act as a normal Christian church to outsiders, but later people may find out they are not. They are close relatives to Jehovah Witnesses, in the end, so no suprise.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I have been visiting SDA for some months many years ago, we also had her books, like the Great Controversy, at home.

They try to act as a normal Christian church to outsiders, but later people may find out they are not. They are close relatives to Jehovah Witnesses, in the end, so no suprise.

This is a complete false statement. The JW do not believe in God’s Ten Commandments and do not keep the Sabbath. They have their own book, we believe in the Bible.

Take care.

 

[trophy33]

This is a complete false statement. The JW do not believe in God’s Ten Commandments and do not keep the Sabbath. They have their own book, we believe in the Bible.

Take care.

The sectarian techniques are the same, because you have the same roots. Of course, doctrines are different, or else you would be a one movement instead of two.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The sectarian techniques are the same, because you have the same roots. Of course, doctrines are different, or else you would be a one movement instead of two.

Not true.

 

[trophy33]

Not true.

You are SDA, so I am not really shocked you do not agree.

 

[Freth]

The sectarian techniques are the same, because you have the same roots. Of course, doctrines are different, or else you would be a one movement instead of two.

Google:

sect: a group of people with somewhat different religious beliefs (typically regarded as heretical) from those of a larger group to which they belong.
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Jesus:

Matthew 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
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Our beliefs are scripturally sound. I'll gladly take on that title of "sect", if it means I'm in line with scripture, and on the narrow way.