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Why is pornography wrong?

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It's more than not knowing-sin wouldn't exist. People say homosexuality wouldn't if the fall didn't happen.

You cannot be condemned for something you are not aware of.
For where there is no law, there is no sin.
Again, think of animals today.
Do you think wolves will be at a judgment because they ate a man?
Granted, we are talking about the animal kingdom after the fall.

However, even today, there are certain animals whereby God imbeds a natural instinct into these animals that is good for it's own species. I see the world of Adam and Eve that obeyed God as the Lord creating man in such a way whereby God would protect them from doing things that would be dumb. This of course would be honor of their obeying that one command of not eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Again, they would not be aware of all of the knowledge of good and evil.
They would be sort of like the animals in this regards morally whereby God would more than likely give them certain good instincts. Sort of like a born again believer. They are given new desires and have a new man instinct to do that which is good and right. They have a good moral compass. Well, unless of course they go back to sin (and they become deceived by it, yet again).


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Matthew 5:28 "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

When we look upon another human being with only a desire for sex in our mind, we are degrading them, their bodies, and their very being as an object of sexual pleasure. That is wrong. No one wants to be seen as a piece of meat that is only worth having sex with. The only reason someone watches porn is to lust, which is sinful.

Porn makes the person, the human being that you are viewing a mere thing for sex in your mind. It changes how you think of people in your daily life, not just the person on the screen.
http://www.geeksundergrace.com/christian-living/is-looking-at-porn-a-sin/
 
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Think of it as God limiting Adam and Eve's free will. They did not have the free will capacity to know how to murder or what that even means. God would give Adam and Eve and their children them the born again new man instinct to guide them to doing what is good as long as they obeyed the one Command to not eat of the forbidden fruit. But seeing this scenario did not happen, I would say that it not something we need to be concerned with.


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Think of it as God limiting Adam and Eve's free will. They did not have the free will capacity to know how to murder or what that even means. God would give Adam and Eve and their children them the born again new man instinct to guide them to doing what is good as long as they obeyed the one Command to not eat of the forbidden fruit. But seeing this scenario did not happen, I would say that it not something we need to be concerned with.


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I'm talking about if they wore no clothes. Would it have been in their innocence improperly touching a person would apall them?
 
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Matthew 5:28 "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

When we look upon another human being with only a desire for sex in our mind, we are degrading them, their bodies, and their very being as an object of sexual pleasure. That is wrong. No one wants to be seen as a piece of meat that is only worth having sex with. The only reason someone watches porn is to lust, which is sinful.

Porn makes the person, the human being that you are viewing a mere thing for sex in your mind. It changes how you think of people in your daily life, not just the person on the screen.
Is Looking at Porn a Sin?

Agreed. Porn is a big problem in the world. People begin to think that such a thing is natural or normal; But it is evil and wrong. But we are living in the last days whereby men have a form of Godliness, but they deny the power thereof.


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Agreed. Porn is a big problem in the world. People begin to think that such a thing is natural or normal; But it is evil and wrong. But we are living in the last days whereby men have a form of Godliness, but they deny the power thereof.


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are evil and wicked the same meaning to you?
 
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I'm talking about if they wore no clothes. Would it have been in their innocence improperly touching a person would apall them?

They wouldn't see their nakedness as a means to arouse sexual desire within each other. Scripture says they were not ashamed of their nakedness.

Again, I believe they would have a new man instinct given to them by God in honor of their keeping the one command. They would be like certain animals today who do things honorably as a part of it's species. Certain species have an instinct to only mate with another of the opposite sex for life. Certain animals have an intinct of where there home is, etc. So the scenario you describe just wouldn't happen.


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They wouldn't see their nakedness as a means to arouse sexual desire within each other. Scripture says they were not ashamed of their nakedness.

Again, I believe they would have a new man instinct given to them by God in honor of their keeping the one command. They would be like certain animals today who do things honorably as a part of it's species. Certain species have an instinct to only mate with another of the opposite sex for life. Certain animals have an intinct of where there home is, etc. So the scenario you describe just wouldn't happen.


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So they would be horrified at the idea of improper touching?
 
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So they would be horrified at the idea of improper touching?

No, they would not simply be aware of it. If they seen a porn video they would not probably understand it. Their instincts from God would probably tell them to stay away from it, but they would not really know why. They did not have all of the knowledge of good and evil. The only thing they knew was wrong was to not eat of the forbidden fruit. So the scenario of them touching each other would just not happen. Does it happen among penguins? No. They would not know about such things. The same would the case for Adam and Eve. They would be similar to animals in a moral sense. But they would be like the good animals before the fall, and not like the wolves who could eat people or men.


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Does synonym mean exactly the same?

Synonym is defined as:

A word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language, for example shut is a synonym of close.


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Synonym is defined as:

A word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language, for example shut is a synonym of close.


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People say occult, satanism, witchcraft. They don't mean exactly the same thing.
 
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No, they would not simply be aware of it. If they seen a porn video they would not probably understand it. Their instincts from God would probably tell them to stay away from it, but they would not really know why. They did not have the knowledge of good and evil. The scenario of them touching each other would just not happen. Does it happen among penguins? No. They would not know about such things. The same would the case for Adam and Eve. They would be similar to animals in a moral sense. But they would be like the good animals before the fall, and not like the wolves who could eat people or men.


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So with animals that stuff doesn't happen accidentally?

Just because they were innocent it didn't mean God's sexual standards didn't exist back then. There would be no homosexuality or fornication or pedophilia if the fall didn't happen.
 
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People say occult, satanism, witchcraft. They don't mean exactly the same thing.

But all of them are of the devil. All of them do involve some kind of witchcraft or dark arts.
Yes, there are certain words that are more specific.
But I do not see evil and wicked as being all that different.
Unless of course you want to explain it to me.


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But all of them are of the devil. All of them do involve some kind of witchcraft or dark arts.
Yes, there are certain words that are more specific.
But I do not see evil and wicked as being all that different.
Unless of course you want to explain it to me.


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But all of those words aren't exactly the same.
 
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I do think that porn, like any genre, carries the potential to encourage whatever line of thinking it's demonstrating. That's why, again like any genre, it has to be handled responsibly. If the context is characterized with respect for the individuals involved, the result will likely be of far better integrity.

For instance, I'm sure the American infatuation with everything from old Westerns to new action movies is at least a little responsible for the American infatuation with gun-rights. Makes the dudes feel like such cowboys to be, you know, packing heat! :)

Or maybe just not disparage people for watching porn until one has abstained from watching violent movies, given that both can be damaging if not handled correctly. It's rather like someone indulging in alcohol dissing people who smoke weed.

Life is supposed to be sacred too (in fact, sex wouldn't be sacred apart from it), so how can one who is against porn not be against violent imagery in films?
I would say there is a distinction. Am unfamiliar with a Christian view of pornagraphy that finds it acceptable in any form. Smells like Fish Love. As for violence I can agree and do think the line gets crossed.
As for guns, would rather have them and not need them than need them and not have them. Been there done that. Man with baseball bat against man with gun is going to lose.
 
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So with animals that stuff doesn't happen accidentally?

Just because they were innocent it didn't mean God's sexual standards didn't exist back then. There would be no homosexuality or fornication or pedophilia if the fall didn't happen.

I am saying that they would be like the animals BEFORE the fall.
They would have good built in instincts like penguins have to find one mate, and be with them for life, etc.
God would do this for them in honor that they would keep His one command.
The sexual immorality you describe would simply not exist in the world of Adam and Eve if they obeyed God because God would place within them the ability to naturally do good things on instinct like certain animals today do.


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But all of them are of the devil. All of them do involve some kind of witchcraft or dark arts.
Yes, there are certain words that are more specific.
But I do not see evil and wicked as being all that different.
Unless of course you want to explain it to me.


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Would you say depraved only applies to the most heinous of sins?
 
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But all of those words aren't exactly the same.

Yes, I realize that.
But do you care to explain the difference between wicked and evil for me?


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