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Why is it?

Discussion in 'One Bread, One Body - Catholic' started by Avila, Mar 21, 2002.

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  1. Avila

    Avila Boohoo moomoo, cebu

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    That just a few, um, overzealous anti-Catholics leave such a bad taste in our mouths for all Protestants? That is my biggest problem. I know that not every Protestant is anti-Catholic and contentious, yet I want to lump them all in the same group. That is so bad of me!

    Like on this board - there are several of our Protestant brothers and sisters who are genuinely interested in sharing the faith with us - and putting any differences aside. Then, there are those who want to rim-wreck what good has been done by focusing on one tiny little difference between our beliefs and theirs. Do they do that with other Protestants who don't believe the same way they do? I just don't get it!!! :scratch: Back when I was Protestant, I didn't know about Catholicism, but I respected Catholics' beliefs. It didn't matter to me what they were, as long as they believed in Christ, were baptized (with water), and went about living their lives right. I didn't cut down certain denominations for not being spiritual enough, others for relying too heavily on a certain translation of the Bible, some for singing too much, and others for not praying enough!!! It doesn't really matter!!! :mad: I'm a little less tolerant now, if a Catholic doesn't want to submit themselves to the teachings of the Church, I don't agree and think they should pray to be able to accept the teaching. And, I wish that we could all (Protestants and Catholics) be a unified body of Christ, but that's a long way away... :(

    Grrr!!!! Anyway.... thanks for letting me vent. I can't wait until I finish my CHSS courses so I can join you guys in the trenches - defending my faith eloquently against the attacks. Until then - :bow: - thanks for all you do!
     
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  2. PrinceJeff

    PrinceJeff Well-Known Member

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    I feel your pain I really do. :cry:
     
  3. ZooMom

    ZooMom Thanks for the memories...

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    Take heart. Both of you. :)

    Msg boards are like rollercoasters. Up, down, up, down. I have had to take some really big emotional steps back in the last week or two. I have, praise God, found peace again through Him. I can rest in my mind that there is nothing I say here that I wouldn't say to anyone in person. I know that there are alot of people who prefer to use msg boards because of the impersonal and hit-n-run opportunity it presents. They enjoy the ability to be extremely confrontational without having to deal with an actual real person looking them in the face.

    Just let it go. If you see something that lights your fuse, PM me or the other mods and then step away from the keyboard keeping your hands in sight at all times. :D ( My hubby's a cop. ;) )

    Peace to you both.
     
  4. Religious Crisis

    Religious Crisis God is a Consuming Fire!!!

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    Zoomom, you say it the best.
     
  5. JohnR7

    JohnR7 Well-Known Member

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    >>That just a few, um, overzealous anti-Catholics

    I am not trying to attack anyone. But I have noticed a few overzealous Catholics along the way, who are pretty dogmatic about what they believe. Catholics maybe persecuted, but that maybe because some of the conservative Catholics are so aggressive to promote their beliefs. In other words, what goes around comes around, or as Paul said, do not be deceived, you will reap what you sow. Thanks, JohnR7
     
  6. VOW

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    John,

    It is not what we believe, as in personal belief. It's what our Church TEACHES.

    Again, the example I have used over and over: You wouldn't see a Baptist starting a thread, "I'm a good Baptist, and I don't see why the Baptist Church insists on baptizing people by immersion. I think people should have a choice!"


    Peace be with you,
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  7. ZooMom

    ZooMom Thanks for the memories...

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    There's the rub, John. We aren't promoting our beliefs. We aren't here to evangelize or convert because we already consider Protestant churches to be Christian. We are defending our beliefs against the misunderstandings and lies that ARE being promoted about our faith. If we get overzealous and aggressive, it is because we feel that our explanations and responses are being ignored or skimmed or twisted. And, of course Catholics are dogmatic about their beliefs. Because we believe them to be true. :angel:
     
  8. ZooMom

    ZooMom Thanks for the memories...

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    :eek: ;) Thanks. :wave:
     
  9. Religious Crisis

    Religious Crisis God is a Consuming Fire!!!

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    No problem
     
  10. PrinceJeff

    PrinceJeff Well-Known Member

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    I wish I could defend my faith, but I am a bad debater. :(
     
  11. VOW

    VOW Moderator

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    To Jeff:

    It's not about collecting brownie points, Hon. Never has been. You defend your faith by talking about what it means to you. It's just a crying shame that sometimes around here, it ends up as a fistfight, or a "King of the Hill" type argument, where you gain ground by stepping on the other guy's beliefs.

    You correct mistakes about your OWN faith, don't throw rocks at others. And quite honestly, you've done a wonderful job of just that. So pat yourself on the back!


    Peace be with you,
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  12. Religious Crisis

    Religious Crisis God is a Consuming Fire!!!

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    Thats too bad.
     
  13. AngelAmidala

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    No you're not Jeff! You're great! :) You may not think you are, but you really and truly are!
     
  14. JohnR7

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    >>It is not what we believe, as in personal belief. It's what our Church TEACHES.

    Well, here we go. Jesus told us that the Holy Spirit would teach us all things. Even in our Bible school, we are taught how to work with the Holy Spirit. He is the spirit of grace and truth, and apart from the Holy Spirit, no one can be saved. Our job is not really to teach people, our job it to lead them to the Teacher. Thanks, JohnR7

    John 14:26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

    1 John 2:27 But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.
     
  15. Dave Ulchers

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    If you keep Jesus's commandments. The chief role of the Church is to tell us what those are (though they are of course in the Scriptures) and to aid our growth into keeping them though the graces She offers.

    So, you are right. The role of the Church is to lead us to the Teacher.
     
  16. VOW

    VOW Moderator

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    "Well, here we go."

    What is that supposed to mean?

    The Church is LED by the Holy Spirit in its teachings. Please don't pick apart what you don't understand.


    Peace be with you,
    ~VOW
     
  17. PrinceJeff

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    I'll get back to this tomorrow, must go to bed cos I have work at 10 am. :eek:

    Night folks!

    *downs a Michelob AB before leaving the pub* *pays the tab*
     
  18. susabean

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  19. VOW

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    Hey, can we make that into a T-shirt?

    It wasn't a bad analogy, it was PERFECT.


    Peace be with you,
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  20. JohnR7

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    >>"Well, here we go."
    >>What is that supposed to mean?

    IT means that you are starting something, and then your going to complain about it later. "Why are they always picking on me?" Because you set yourself up for it.

    >>The Church is LED by the Holy Spirit in its teachings.

    Just what is the "Church" and what scripture in the Bible are you going to use to back it up?

    >>Please don't pick apart what you don't understand.

    Now your going to insult me. Act like I am ignorant. But you do not want me to get angry and attack you or your church. AGAIN, your setting yourself up. If you do not want people to attack you or your church, then do not set yourself up for it. Thanks, JohnR7
     
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