Why is it Cool to vote for Obama?

[Tinkerbell33]

Aww, you had me impressed there Becky, now I'm just disappointed.

Well I can be too honest for my own good.

 

[mina]

Haha, American politics crack me up. The presidential race is such a catfight.

The most truth on this thread, lol. I hate politics and this is a big reason why- it's so catty and the politicians and those that are hardcore about them act so superior and petty towards anyone that disagrees with them. I think it's fine and good to know who you are voting for and why, be informed and even be passionate about it, but to imply something negative and untrue about someone else b/c they might feel passionately different from you makes me want to vomit. I care if people are informed and know WHY they are voting for who they are voting for- even if it's not the choice i would make.
I hate election years; they are so hateful. I know who i'm voting for and why. I enjoy watching political spoofs on SNL. But i miss the olympics and micheal phelps.

 

[WiseDonkey]

American politics is such a puppet show. Following the elections a little bit and I must say I'm worried. America is also important for the rest of the world and if they don't take their own elections seriously I lost all hope. The next president should be based on quality and not on popularity. Who the heck cares if he's black, white, has sadam in his name or is a bit older.. With the way things work in the US you always have the candidate who tries to please all the non religious people and maybe take some religious people too and then there's the one who's more conservative and gets most religious votes. Politics is more than black and white and shouldn't be a silly game, especially considering how much power the next leader will have.

Also I saw a video the other day where Palin was introduced and she had a little speech. What's with everyone always cheering after a presidential candidate or vp candidate just says one sentence.. She could basically say: I LOVE CHICKEN and people would cheer.. It all just seems so incredibly fake. Sorry if I offended you guys, but it's beyond me not more people are complaining about the fakeness of all this...Ooh and lets not start with the incredibly low "My name is ..... and I approve of this message" after attacking the other candidate.. What is this, primary school?

ok rant over

 

[Wren]

American politics is such a puppet show. Following the elections a little bit and I must say I'm worried. America is also important for the rest of the world and if they don't take their own elections seriously I lost all hope. The next president should be based on quality and not on popularity. Who the heck cares if he's black, white, has sadam in his name or is a bit older.. With the way things work in the US you always have the candidate who tries to please all the non religious people and maybe take some religious people too and then there's the one who's more conservative and gets most religious votes. Politics is more than black and white and shouldn't be a silly game, especially considering how much power the next leader will have.

Also I saw a video the other day where Palin was introduced and she had a little speech. What's with everyone always cheering after a presidential candidate or vp candidate just says one sentence.. She could basically say: I LOVE CHICKEN and people would cheer.. It all just seems so incredibly fake. Sorry if I offended you guys, but it's beyond me not more people are complaining about the fakeness of all this...Ooh and lets not start with the incredibly low "My name is ..... and I approve of this message" after attacking the other candidate.. What is this, primary school?

ok rant over

I truly believe that most US citizens vote based on the issues and not for superficial reasons.

It does seem silly, but really those speeches are just rallies to fire up supporters so that they will vote and get others to vote. Debates are when things are serious business.

That's actually required by law, the McCain-Feingold Act (Feingold is the US senator for my area and I'm a big supporter of his) aka the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act.

 

[WileyCoyote]

Obama is getting a bad rap. Many black 'leaders' think he's too white. Many white racialists think he's too black. I really don't see anybody focusing on his politics as much as his race. Instead, all I see is staggering ignorance (as was demonstrated by the OP) and feeding the fire of racial indifference we have been trying to put out for years. Take for example this thread. The OP suggests FIRST that the reason it's cool to vote for Obama is because he's not white. Politics were mentioned after. Race first, then politics. Many people have adopted this attitude of "Well I'm not going to vote for Obama because other people are voting for him because he's black." In an attempt to make it seem as if they are infuriated with all the 'race voters' and the bias in voting, the person ironically becomes biased in voting themself. It just upsets me that things are still like this. I being mixed myself, cannot vote for Obama without people thinking that the only reason I'm doing it is because I'm the same race as him. Oh I can go on about his politics being a main factor in my decision but nobody will buy it. And this is the message being portrayed. Black man votes for black man, it's because of race. Ultimately, no matter how liberal a person thinks they are in their decision making, the issue still boils down to 'what color is the person'?

 

[GQ Chris]

This has really nothing to do with his race, I would feel the same way no matter what race he is, blame the MSM for making it about his race.

 

[GQ Chris]

Its All about his Politics, appeasing Rogue States, abortion, healthcare, and on and on...

 

[Sketcher]

Obama is getting a bad rap. Many black 'leaders' think he's too white. Many white racialists think he's too black. I really don't see anybody focusing on his politics as much as his race. Instead, all I see is staggering ignorance (as was demonstrated by the OP) and feeding the fire of racial indifference we have been trying to put out for years. Take for example this thread. The OP suggests FIRST that the reason it's cool to vote for Obama is because he's not white. Politics were mentioned after. Race first, then politics. Many people have adopted this attitude of "Well I'm not going to vote for Obama because other people are voting for him because he's black." In an attempt to make it seem as if they are infuriated with all the 'race voters' and the bias in voting, the person ironically becomes biased in voting themself. It just upsets me that things are still like this. I being mixed myself, cannot vote for Obama without people thinking that the only reason I'm doing it is because I'm the same race as him. Oh I can go on about his politics being a main factor in my decision but nobody will buy it. And this is the message being portrayed. Black man votes for black man, it's because of race. Ultimately, no matter how liberal a person thinks they are in their decision making, the issue still boils down to 'what color is the person'?

His color is a big part of what makes him exciting. His politics are why I won't vote for him. Geraldine Ferraro suggested that he would not have been a finalist in the primary if he was white, and I think there's some credibility to that.

 

[GQ Chris]

Obama is getting a bad rap. Many black 'leaders' think he's too white. Many white racialists think he's too black. I really don't see anybody focusing on his politics as much as his race. Instead, all I see is staggering ignorance (as was demonstrated by the OP) and feeding the fire of racial indifference we have been trying to put out for years. Take for example this thread. The OP suggests FIRST that the reason it's cool to vote for Obama is because he's not white. Politics were mentioned after. Race first, then politics. Many people have adopted this attitude of "Well I'm not going to vote for Obama because other people are voting for him because he's black." In an attempt to make it seem as if they are infuriated with all the 'race voters' and the bias in voting, the person ironically becomes biased in voting themself. It just upsets me that things are still like this. I being mixed myself, cannot vote for Obama without people thinking that the only reason I'm doing it is because I'm the same race as him. Oh I can go on about his politics being a main factor in my decision but nobody will buy it. And this is the message being portrayed. Black man votes for black man, it's because of race. Ultimately, no matter how liberal a person thinks they are in their decision making, the issue still boils down to 'what color is the person'?

Yes, exactly. There's a difference with what I mentioned, it isn't about Obama being Black that is the issue at all, I just merely mentioned that he is the non-white guy candidate and thats what the MSM tries to push comparing the similarity to the current administration run by a White Man, and that makes him somehow the "Cooler choice" to vote for.

 

[charlie_hunter]

Its All about his Politics, appeasing Rogue States, abortion, healthcare, and on and on...

Appeasing rouge states? what like Israel? a country with a nuclear stockpile (which is undeclared) who belive in pre-emptive strikes against neighbours which are not agressive towards them and the targeting of civilians? or do you mean the rouge states in Africa, which have been committing genocide against their people for decades, but somehow are not as bad as Iraq?

Bush has been appeasing rouge states for years!!

Or do you mean Iran? whats your plan there? carpet bomb the place and breed a new generation of orphaned suicide bombers ready to make 9/11 look like an amature job (with the plutonium to do it) and start the cycle of death again or invade and occupy like the resounding success that the Iraq war was?

 

[Wren]

His color is a big part of what makes him exciting. His politics are why I won't vote for him. Geraldine Ferraro suggested that he would not have been a finalist in the primary if he was white, and I think there's some credibility to that.

Ferraro was just bitter that Hillary wasn't winning. I strongly disagree with her.

 

[RosaVernal]

Obama makes a good speech, looks attractive on camera, and managed to use the Internet.

That's all.

 

[Markus6]

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11. "The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer, and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. South African beer is also acceptable as they are pound for pound the greatest sporting Nation on earth and it can only be due to the beer. They are also part of British Commonwealth - see what it did for them.

12. "Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie McDowell attempt English dialogue in Four Weddings and a Funeral was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater.

13. "You will cease playing American football. There is only one kind of proper football; you call it soccer. Those of you brave enough will,in time, be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American football, but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like a bunch of nancies). Don't try Rugby - the South Africans and Kiwis will thrash you, like they regularly thrash us.

14. "Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the World Series for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.1% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. You will learn cricket, and we will let you face the South Africans first to take the sting out of their deliveries.

15. "You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad.

16. "An internal revenue agent (i.e. tax collector) from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due (backdated to 1776).

17. "Daily Tea Time begins promptly at 4 pm with proper cups, never mugs, with high quality biscuits (cookies) and cakes; strawberries in season."

"God save the Queen."

 

[charlie_hunter]

Britain is Repossessing America--- I'm John Cleese, and I approved this Message




-------------
Britain is Repossessing the U.S.A. ----A Message from John Cleese

To the citizens of the United States of America:

"In light of your failure to nominate competent candidates for President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately."

"Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths, and territories (except Kansas ,which she does not fancy)."

"Your new prime minister, Gordon Brown, will appoint a governor for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed."

"To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1. "You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary, then look up aluminium, and check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it.

2. "The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix -ize will be replaced by the suffix -ise. Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. (look up 'vocabulary').

3. "Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. There is no such thing as U.S. English. We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of -ize. You will relearn your original national anthem, 'God Save The Queen'.

4. "July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday."

5. "You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns,lawyers, or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

6. "Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. A permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

7. "All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and this is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean.

8. "All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

9. "The Former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling gasoline)-roughly $6/US gallon. Get used to it.

10. "You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with catsup but with vinegar.

11. "The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer, and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. South African beer is also acceptable as they are pound for pound the greatest sporting Nation on earth and it can only be due to the beer. They are also part of British Commonwealth - see what it did for them.

12. "Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie McDowell attempt English dialogue in Four Weddings and a Funeral was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater.

13. "You will cease playing American football. There is only one kind of proper football; you call it soccer. Those of you brave enough will,in time, be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American football, but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like a bunch of nancies). Don't try Rugby - the South Africans and Kiwis will thrash you, like they regularly thrash us.

14. "Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the World Series for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.1% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. You will learn cricket, and we will let you face the South Africans first to take the sting out of their deliveries.

15. "You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad.

16. "An internal revenue agent (i.e. tax collector) from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due (backdated to 1776).

17. "Daily Tea Time begins promptly at 4 pm with proper cups, never mugs, with high quality biscuits (cookies) and cakes; strawberries in season."

"God save the Queen."

WIN

 

[Sketcher]

Ferraro was just bitter that Hillary wasn't winning. I strongly disagree with her.

You don't think "white guilt" among liberals had anything to do with it?

 

[StarryEyes]

I seriously don't get this, is it because he's not a White Man like McCain? Is it because voting for Obama is a political statement of "sticking it to the man" in Politics? Is it because MTV endorses him? Or his Hollywood supporters?

I don't know, I don't get it either but he won't be getting my vote in Nov.

 

[Wren]

You don't think "white guilt" among liberals had anything to do with it?

No. I'm white, so is my sister, and other Obama supporters that I know. We voted for him because we thought that Hillary Clinton would be a terrible president (and she doesn't have any more real experience than Obama) not because of any "white guilt". I might think that "white guilt" might be possible with people if his main opposition (it was her primaries to lose is the general thought) hadn't been Hillary Clinton. There are people who can't stand her on both sides of the conservative and liberal spectrum (although for very different reasons).

 

[AirForceTeacher]

First off, I was attracted to Obama because he - more than most politicians - gives off an aura of integrity, something nobody has done for me, well, since I started voting. He is a gifted speaker - something that I think is important in a president, so I get irritated at all the "empty suit" comments. However, I disagree with many of his policy stances, so I don't know how I can vote for him. I'm not thrilled with the other side of the election either, but overall, this year is a lot better than any election I've voted in since Bush/Dukakis. I do feel like I get to vote for the better of two candidates instead of the "least bad."

I do agree with those in this thread that say he may not be as far as he is if he was white. His policy stance is not far off from any other democratic senator, and although he gives a good speech, the "inexperience" zingers would have killed him early in the primaries.

 

[kingoffools13]

wow i'm 100% anti liberal and i hated the idea of obama or hilary in the office ... and i still know that she would be the stronger pick. There wasn't a difference in the two of them on issues, it was all about popularity and who was the bigger minority. obama is a bigger celebrity which is great for a race (obviously) but getting things done, back room deals and politics? lol obama is a child in a big kids play yard compared to hilary ... she has more political capital and clout than he could shake a stick at.

and don't think that she didn't just earn herself more at the convention; if not a monetary value to her I'm sure her concession in that manor meant major political cash in her back pocket.


as for the OP's question: Its not

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[kingoffools13]

gives off an aura of integrity

easy to maintain integrity with no history and when you aren't actually saying anything

He is a gifted speaker - something that I think is important in a president

only when he is in front of a teleprompter ... he is famous for babbling more than Bush when he doesn't have that aid, sounds like a motor boat the way he stutters.

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