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If God created time, then he must have existed before time existed. If he existed both before and after something happened (time coming into existence) then by definition, he is subject to time.
The word 'before' clearly tells us that time is involved. Perhaps I should ask when you say "God can exist before time begins", does that mean God can exist at a point in time prior to when time began?Not logical. God can exist before time begins and after time ends and do both at the same time perhaps in the eternal moment. This does not make God subject to time. Being subject to time means one's existence is determined by time and would end with the end of time.
No it means God already existed when time began.The word 'before' clearly tells us that time is involved. Perhaps I should ask when you say "God can exist before time begins", does that mean God can exist at a point in time prior to when time began?
Did God exist prior to the point in time that time began? If so, then God is subject to time, as the verb "create", means time must have passed during his creation.No it means God already existed when time began.
Did God exist prior to the point in time that time began? If so, then God is subject to time, as the verb "create", means time must have passed during his creation.
Did God exist prior to the point in time that God began to exist?God is not created. Existing prior to the existence of time does not logically make God subject to time.
Did God exist prior to the point in time that God began to exist?
How much time elapsed between the point at time 8 minutes before God created time and 6 minutes before God created time?Time is the passing of change. Before creation, there was no change, and by extension, there was no time. God never changes, so He can exist in a timeless universe.
God was never created. Everything began with Him. If it didn't we'd have to ask where the God-maker came from. And where did the God-maker-maker come from?
How much time elapsed between the point at time 8 minutes before God created time and 6 minutes before God created time?
I find it somewhat revealing that you responded to the question without providing anything close to an actual answer. As I asked for a period of time, the answer should be in seconds, minutes, hours, days, years, etc.Atheists wanting to put their knowledge of physics on display are generally anxious to tell us that time came into being with the big bang. Personally I am not sure that I buy that, but it is wondrous how things like that can slip their minds when they are proving an inconvenience, rather than a help, in arguing with theists.
No there is no point in time when God began to exist.Did God exist prior to the point in time that God began to exist?
How much time elapsed between the point at time 8 minutes before God created time and 6 minutes before God created time?
Please understand that I have specific training which allows me to understand what people are really trying to say when they avoid a question. This training has taught me that Christians who avoid questions don't want to confront the questions because they have doubts about their faith. This has been substantiated through some conversations I have had with the leaders at a local church.
I find it somewhat revealing that you responded to the question without providing anything close to an actual answer. As I asked for a period of time, the answer should be in seconds, minutes, hours, days, years, etc.
Once again: How much time elapsed between the point at time 8 minutes before God created time and 6 minutes before God created time?
Please understand that I have specific training which allows me to understand what people are really trying to say when they avoid a question. This training has taught me that Christians who avoid questions don't want to confront the questions because they have doubts about their faith. This has been substantiated through some conversations I have had with the leaders at a local church.
Then your answer to my question is no time elapsed. Am I incorrect?You may have been trained in coming up with trick and meaningless statments. There would be no time before time was created.
I find it somewhat revealing that you responded to the question without providing anything close to an actual answer. As I asked for a period of time, the answer should be in seconds, minutes, hours, days, years, etc.
Once again: How much time elapsed between the point at time 8 minutes before God created time and 6 minutes before God created time?
Please understand that I have specific training which allows me to understand what people are really trying to say when they avoid a question. This training has taught me that Christians who avoid questions don't want to confront the questions because they have doubts about their faith. This has been substantiated through some conversations I have had with the leaders at a local church.
Read the content at Good liars avoid answering questions - Australian GeographicThe question itself is a contradiction. There was no time, no passage of time. If there is no time to measure, then you cannot measure it.
This is the convenient mindset of an atheist. I saw no avoidance in Leslie's answer.
Usually what I find is that when an atheist doesn't get the answer they want, they accuse their opponents of avoiding the question. That way, they can avoid having to consider what was said.
Is there no answer to my initial question of why God doesn't alert us of upcoming natural catastrophes, while man will? If so, why is there no answer?Which is just one way for you to avoid the issue that good people have devoted no shortage of effort to address things you ask, which includes things there is no answer to.
Is there no answer to my initial question of why God doesn't alert us of upcoming natural catastrophes, while man will? If so, why is there no answer?
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