Why is everyone leaving?

[ottaia]

I think we have a problem here. Bloved has flown the coop too! It upsets me that people are getting so frustrated that they are leaving. Welcome to the world of Christianity.

 

[AngylBelle]

I'm with you on this. I get so sick of the naivety and closed-mindedness on CF and when you throw in a dash of that good ole condemnation and criticism, it's been almost enough to make me take a hiatus. It's so sad when Christians are responsible for the negative stereotype of their own religion...and even more sad when they don't own up to it.

 

[loriersea]

I read some comments tonight on a section of the board that I will not name, and I was very tempted to leave myself. Sometimes the hatred and willful ignorance of so many of the Christians I see and hear is just so overwhelming that I'm tempted to denounce Christianity altogether. It's sad.

 

[Plan 9]

I just had one of my worst CF experiences yet, but this time my fellow liberals were responsible. That really hurt.
In order to remain, rather than taking yet another "CF vacation", I had to drop my subscription to the entire forum, so as not to be forced to read the thread title over and over and brood.
I'm not at all happy with our proposed name change, either, btw. It makes us sound like a snotty, exclusive clique, IMO.

 

[Gentle]

It's a strange way to approach God and Jesus isn't it? The Holy Spirit can be none to close if we cannot even possess manners.
A question I have is why does everyone want to be RIGHT or even care? Ego? Satan? I often wonder if they aren't one and the same
I dunno but people themselves often don't know their motives for what they say and every word is a prejudice. It doesn't make it right but it helps to remember.
I don't ever want to hurt anyones feelings EVER in anyway but I don't know how many feel the same. We need to be light hearted, never judging(this is an intellectual matter as much moral) and focus on the good in everyone. God is soon going to give up on us due to our minds lol really, we just don't get it.
i wish nobody would leave this place has been so good for me already.
For everyone who leaves over some one with a ridiculous comment that person and all they have to offer everyone is gone as well.
we need to mellow
peace
Andrew

 

[Plan 9]

WinAce may also be leaving CF, but not by choice.
http://www.christianforums.com/t2150138-wwwsave-allanorg-a-worthy-cause.html
http://www.christianforums.com/t227...to-reject-his-appeal-for-lung-transplant.html
http://www.save-allan.org/
Apparently, Yella is already gone, and not to Cross & Flame.
http://www.christianforums.com/t2276010-sad-news-regarding-yella.html
This suicidal member hasn't posted since 3rd July 2005, and he has his e-mail option turned off.
http://www.christianforums.com/t1757904-i-want-out-i-want-to-die.html

 

[Plan 9]

It's a strange way to approach God and Jesus isn't it? The Holy Spirit can be none to close if we cannot even possess manners.
A question I have is why does everyone want to be RIGHT or even care? Ego? Satan? I often wonder if they aren't one and the same
I dunno but people themselves often don't know their motives for what they say and every word is a prejudice. It doesn't make it right but it helps to remember.
I don't ever want to hurt anyones feelings EVER in anyway but I don't know how many feel the same. We need to be light hearted, never judging(this is an intellectual matter as much moral) and focus on the good in everyone. God is soon going to give up on us due to our minds lol really, we just don't get it.
i wish nobody would leave this place has been so good for me already.
For everyone who leaves over some one with a ridiculous comment that person and all they have to offer everyone is gone as well.
we need to mellow
peace
Andrew

Wise words, Andrew.

 

[Im_A]

I think we have a problem here. Bloved has flown the coop too! It upsets me that people are getting so frustrated that they are leaving. Welcome to the world of Christianity.

i think your right ottaia. i also think this shows the major problem of our church today and ironically enough, it is refecting on this forum.

i think we should give mad props to Erwin for createing this forum. it's a great attempt to try to bring unity to a body that isn't unified. are things going to be perfect here on CF? no. is everyone going to be happy with stuff on CF? no. i will say, Erwin is doing his best to please the people that come on here.

i hate seeing people leave, or on a vacation because of other posters. i have felt tempted to take a break from CF, but honestly i enjoy discussion about theology. i enjoy having great conversations with liberals and conservatives. sometimes i may get a little cynical. i'm working on trying to get that more on a controlled level, and i feel i'm doing better. but i'm not going to go because of someone else's closed mindedness. i've seen it a lot in my life, it's nothing new. it frustrates me, gets me fired up at times, but hey that's life. you take it in, and it goes away.

i just hope that people leave for better reasons than because of other posters. it's like leaveing a church because of people. that doesn't make sense to me. atheists have better reasons for leaveing church than some Chrisitans do.

so i just hope that we do our best to have good conversation here. and when we make mistakes, or we think we may have made a mistake in our posts with our giving of our views or whatever, that when we see that we made a mistake, try our best to change it. God Bless!

 

[Im_A]

I just had one of my worst CF experiences yet, but this time my fellow liberals were responsible. That really hurt.
In order to remain, rather than taking yet another "CF vacation", I had to drop my subscription to the entire forum, so as not to be forced to read the thread title over and over and brood.
I'm not at all happy with our proposed name change, either, btw. It makes us sound like a snotty, exclusive clique, IMO.

hey plan 9. sorry to hear about a bad experience from the liberals. i hope i had nothing to do with it.

the only reason i'm for the proposed name change is not to make us feel like the subculture pride of Christian Forums, or Christianity, but it's just Liberal Theology has more tenants than what many of us show in that forum, i say many meaning the overall majority. i guess i would like the name to be changed, to just be something more appropiate for the discussions we have going on now, and for the discussions that show a sign of what is yet to come. that's the only reason i'm for the name change myself God Bless! <><

 

[FLANDIDLYANDERS]

How about instead of Liberal Theology, Open Theology?

 

[NPH]

I read some comments tonight on a section of the board that I will not name, and I was very tempted to leave myself. Sometimes the hatred and willful ignorance of so many of the Christians I see and hear is just so overwhelming that I'm tempted to denounce Christianity altogether. It's sad.

This is where I have come to find myself. I am leaving CF because of all the hatred and anger that is not only displayed towards the religion I have held (Catholic) but also because of all the hatred and anger displayed towards people like myself (Gay).

I have lost my faith because of how Christianity in general (not just here on CF) treats people like me and because of how mentally, emotionally and even physically harmful Christianites teachings towards homosexuality are. The pain I have endured in my life because of the so-called "love the sinner, hate the sin" attitude is too much to bear any longer.

Plan 9, I know that I was a contributer in the thread that has made you feel quite miserable lately and for that I truly apologize. I did ask you to clarify in the case that I might have misunderstood what was said in that OP but you had already left the thread. I apologize again if anything I said was hurtful to you, and I hope that you can understand from my POV that things that were attributed to your faith in that OP are hurtful and hateful to me. I've just finally reached that point where I could no longer sit back and debate but instead have been lashing back out of the hurt I feel.

Peace be with all of you,

Will.

 

[Catherineanne]

This is where I have come to find myself. I am leaving CF because of all the hatred and anger that is not only displayed towards the religion I have held (Catholic) but also because of all the hatred and anger displayed towards people like myself (Gay).

Peace be with all of you,

Will.

And also with thee, Will.

The Church needs more Gay Christians, imho. They are truly a gift from God.

If it were not for a very good gay friend of mine, I would not have survived an episode of spiritual abuse from a (straight) Minister. This prevents me from attending my own church, where it happened, seven years later.

The preoccupation with sexuality among some people is indicative of huge unresolved areas in their own lives, with all the anger and animosity projected onto the nearest easy target. I believe the Church has a lot to answer for in this matter. Our whole culture is obsessed with sexuality, and the imbalance distorts everything, including our faith.

I respect your right to leave and find a more understanding place to post. But I am sorry to lose you from this forum, if you do go.

 

[Im_A]

i'm sorry to hear about anyone who is leaveing CF, or Christianity. i'm sorry for the pain that Christians can do at times.

but how come we rely on other people so much that they in return, have the power of us to make us believe what they want to believe, make us stay in whatever religion they want us to, make us leave whatever religion we are in because of wrong things they've done?

 

[Victrixa]

It's true that many Christian's hearts have not been softened yet and that this causes problems. In the world, there is a great lack of love and I'm sorry to say that this problem has invaded the Church. Jesus said that in the last days that the love of many will have grown cold. It's a shame. However, please receive consolation from the fact that there are lovely and loving Christ-like Christians out there. I know that they are more rare to find - they are like a remnant - but they exist. And there are loving churches out there - I know - I belong to one (just recently).

No one should leave Christianity because of some people. Remember Ghandi: 'I love your Christ but Your Christians are so unlike your Christ' or something like that?' This phenomena has been around for a while. Christ is a loving Saviour, unfortunately many of His followers are silly (are they really His followers or are they just 'religious'?). For me, to be a Christian means to be loving, among other things. To be a Christian is to be like Christ. Period. If someone isn't like Christ, is she or he really a Christian?

Yes the Church is a small remnant of people. But please, anyone, don't leave Christ because of silly religious and Pharisaical 'Christians'!

I'm sorry for all the pain many of you go through or have gone through because of the so-called Christians or unwise ones (anyways...)

I understand the pain. Just Wednesday, I happened to have to talk with a 'Christian' who is very hooked on his legalism and for him, I was a rebellious Christian who doesn't want to obey Jesus 100%. I felt judged and it was horrible! However, this doesn't affect me anymore as I know my position in Christ (I am His!). It was just an unpleasant experience and I had a bad time, lol. You know, I've had enough of legalism and self-righteous attitudes. I'm done with all that.

God bless you all.

 

[DailyBlessings]

It is a great sorrow to me that the testimony of one Christian can cause another to lose heart. I left CF once because of something cruel that had been said to me, and was gone for nearly a year (Yes, I have not always gone by "DailyBlessings" here). I only sought Christian fellowship online again after entering college and realizing that nonbelievers could be every bit as cruel.

But that some must leave and never return- even have their very faith challenged by the singlemindedness of their brethren, that is a tragedy beyond words. I would follow my Lord if I had to stand alone in order to do so.

 

[Catherineanne]

but how come we rely on other people so much that they in return, have the power of us to make us believe what they want to believe, make us stay in whatever religion they want us to, make us leave whatever religion we are in because of wrong things they've done?

Very good question.

The only answer I can find (and it is not an answer at all, more a direction to look for an answer in, if anything) is to do with connectedness. We can none of us stand alone.

 

[CaDan]

I'm not at all happy with our proposed name change, either, btw. It makes us sound like a snotty, exclusive clique, IMO.

I'm sorry.

I only thought about changing the name of Liberal Theology--y'know, the fighting forum. Not this one.

Whosoever Will May Come wasn't my first choice for a name for this forum. I was a bigger fan of The Ekumene (The Community), but WWMC is OK.

Would you like some ice cream? It is yummy and delicious!

 

[CaDan]

How about instead of Liberal Theology, Open Theology?

The name is probably too close to Open Theism.

 

[Im_A]

Very good question.

The only answer I can find (and it is not an answer at all, more a direction to look for an answer in, if anything) is to do with connectedness. We can none of us stand alone.

oh i agree. no one is an island, and i agree that connectedness shows a reason, but let's the connection was faulty, what do you do? fix it, or get a new cable?

 

[GreenPartyVoter]

Seems like I missed yet another kerfuffle. Sorry things have turned sour once again.