Why Is Darwinism So Dangerous? (5)

[EternalDragon]

Creationist requires a deity.

Try again.

Not if it is atheistic. But if you want to get technical, nature is the deity.

 

[justlookinla]

Adam is a myth. When do you think that Adam existed? Give a reasonable time range. And was he the only man at the time the way that the Bible says, since Eve came later.

I don't know when Adam existed.

 

[justlookinla]

Not if it is atheistic. But if you want to get technical, nature is the deity.

Exactly.

 

[DerelictJunction]

I don't believe that the soul was given by the life-giving breath. The soul was given after the life-giving breath.

You can believe it but you can't show verses that specifically state it, because they are not there.

 

[lasthero]

Not if it is atheistic. But if you want to get technical, nature is the deity.

That'd be pantheism, not atheism.

 

[justlookinla]

In what scripture? And also, if you don't think the soul was given at that point, why do you quote it as if you do?

In the scripture I've posted over and over. The soul was given in the creation process.

 

[Loudmouth]

Not if it is atheistic.

If it is atheistic, then it isn't creationism.

cre·a·tion·ism
noun \-shə-ˌni-zəm\

: the belief that God created all things out of nothing as described in the Bible and that therefore the theory of evolution is incorrect
Creationism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

But if you want to get technical, nature is the deity.

Natural mechanisms are not deities.

 

[bhsmte]

Not if it is atheistic. But if you want to get technical, nature is the deity.

You guys are skilled at ignoring definitions of terms. But hey, whatever it takes right?

Creationism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[EternalDragon]

If it is atheistic, then it isn't creationism.

cre·a·tion·ism
noun \-shə-ˌni-zəm\

: the belief that God created all things out of nothing as described in the Bible and that therefore the theory of evolution is incorrect
Creationism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Natural mechanisms are not deities.

Following the chain of logic, then nature can't build and create complex genetic machinery.

 

[justlookinla]

You can believe it but you can't show verses that specifically state it, because they are not there.

I gave scripture which indicates the soul giving was part of the creation process of Adam.

 

[Loudmouth]

Following the chain of logic, then nature can't build and create complex genetic machinery.

Create is not a synonym for creationism. Please stop lying.

 

[justlookinla]

That'd be pantheism, not atheism.

That would be the atheistic creationist view.

 

[DerelictJunction]

I've questioned the atheistic creationist point of view, asking for evidence for the view, for proof of the view that all of life, in it's incomprehensible complexity and variety, is totally, completely, solely the result of natural mechanisms acting on a single life form from long long ago.

What a confusing sentence! The first bolded part is an oxymoron by any valid definition for those two words that can be produced. The second bolded part is presented as the definition for the bolded term but obviously doesn't fit it. And lastly, you've never asked for proof before so now you're shifting the goalposts. Did you finally realize that evidence has been presented and now have to scramble?

What happens frequently is an attempt to change the issue from proving the creationist view to one of common descent. The focus will continue to be on identifying, and offering evidence, for the viewpoint that humanity is a creation of entirely naturalistic processes acting on a single life form of long long ago.

Evidence for common descent is also evidence for common descent specifically without a creator involved. What is it about this that you fail to understand? Your inability to grasp simple concepts is astounding.

 

[justlookinla]

If it is atheistic, then it isn't creationism.

cre·a·tion·ism
noun \-shə-ˌni-zəm\

: the belief that God created all things out of nothing as described in the Bible and that therefore the theory of evolution is incorrect
Creationism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary



Natural mechanisms are not deities.

Dance around it all you wish, become angry, spew vitriol, do whatever you must do to evade the issue, but the issue remains the same. There is a viewpoint in which only a single life form existed on earth billions of years ago. The single life form may, or may not, exist today....nobody knows what it was/is. We do know that this belief system embraces the view that from this single life form humanity now exists. Somehow, some way, by some method humanity was created from this single life form.

Creationism.

 

[lasthero]

That would be the atheistic creationist view.

No. Pantheism is pantheism. Atheism is atheism.

 

[Split Rock]

Not if it is atheistic. But if you want to get technical, nature is the deity.

You call that getting technical?

Natural mechanisms are not deities.

Following the chain of logic, then nature can't build and create complex genetic machinery.

I think your "chain of logic" broke a while back.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZwVCjhq3YI

 

[Split Rock]

Dance around it all you wish, become angry, spew vitriol, do whatever you must do to evade the issue, but the issue remains the same. There is a viewpoint in which only a single life form existed on earth billions of years ago. The single life form may, or may not, exist today....nobody knows what it was/is. We do know that this belief system embraces the view that from this single life form humanity now exists. Somehow, some way, by some method humanity was created from this single life form.

Creationism.

Show us anyone who claims that humanity was created from this single life form. Show us where it is being taught in science classes.

 

[Loudmouth]

Dance around it all you wish, become angry, spew vitriol, do whatever you must do to evade the issue, but the issue remains the same. There is a viewpoint in which only a single life form existed on earth billions of years ago. The single life form may, or may not, exist today....nobody knows what it was/is. We do know that this belief system embraces the view that from this single life form humanity now exists. Somehow, some way, by some method humanity was created from this single life form.

Creationism.

No, creationism is a deity making life.

cre·a·tion·ism
noun \-shə-ˌni-zəm\

: the belief that God created all things out of nothing as described in the Bible and that therefore the theory of evolution is incorrect
Creationism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Evolution is a scientific theory, not a belief system.

The only one dancing around, spewing vitriol, etc. is you.

 

[DerelictJunction]

Dance around it all you wish, become angry, spew vitriol, do whatever you must do to evade the issue, but the issue remains the same. There is a viewpoint in which only a single life form existed on earth billions of years ago. The single life form may, or may not, exist today....nobody knows what it was/is. We do know that this belief system embraces the view that from this single life form humanity now exists. Somehow, some way, by some method humanity was created from this single life form.

Creationism.

Just like you were created from your great-grandparents.
Each birth is a form of creationism.

 

[justlookinla]

What a confusing sentence! The first bolded part is an oxymoron by any valid definition for those two words that can be produced. The second bolded part is presented as the definition for the bolded term but obviously doesn't fit it. And lastly, you've never asked for proof before so now you're shifting the goalposts. Did you finally realize that evidence has been presented and now have to scramble?

No, there's no oxymoron involved. There is creation of humanity without God, that's atheistic creationism.

Not one shred of evidence, of proof, has been presented for the viewpoint that the creator of humanity was entirely, totally, completely, only by naturalistic mechanisms acting on a single life form from long long ago.

Evidence for common descent is also evidence for common descent specifically without a creator involved. What is it about this that you fail to understand? Your inability to grasp simple concepts is astounding.

No, common descent does not address the issue of who the creator of humanity is. Some have the faith-based belief that God was involved, in some manner, in the process. Those are usually in the theistic evolution camp. Others will accept that only, totally, naturalistic mechanisms were involved in the creation of humanity....those are usually in the atheistic creationist camp.