JonFromMinnesota
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Not going to go down this rabbit hole with you justlookinla. I already know that your deeply held beliefs require you to ignore everything contradictory to them. Enjoy your night.
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The 'how' of Darwinist evolution isn't explained by facts nor supported by the scientific method.
Not going to go down this rabbit hole with you justlookinla. I already know that your deeply held beliefs require you to ignore everything contradictory to them. Enjoy your night.
Science doesn't try to prove anything. Scientific theories explain facts. The theory of evolution is supported by an overwhelming amount of evidence.
Not going to go down this rabbit hole with you justlookinla. I already know that your deeply held beliefs require you to ignore everything contradictory to them. Enjoy your night.
I guess that is your way of saying that what you said is true and you don't like it.Can you provide evidence that proves aliens do not exist?
Misleading. Christians don't believe in Godless Darwinist evolution.
How do you determine whether a scientific theory is reliable or not? If you can't answer the question, just say so.
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How do you account for the fact that very many christians believe in biological evolution?
Perhaps you have never heard of the Clergy Letter Project. It endorses evolution with no qualifications as you misleadingly posted.
The Clergy Letter has been signed by over 13,000 christian clergy.
Following is part of that signed letter.
The Clergy Letter - from American Christian Clergy
– An Open Letter Concerning Religion and Science
We the undersigned, Christian clergy from many different traditions, believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist. We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children.
This is their website:
http://www.theclergyletterproject.org/Christian_Clergy/ChrClergyLtr.htm
I challange you to go to the website, peruse the list of signatories, and look them up or, better yet, send them an email asking about their beliefs.
Sorry, that's woefully simplistic.
First, Genesis 1 and 2 are creative narratives more like parables. They contradict the order of creation, the very sequence of plants and animals and mankind, right next to each other! I think that's just one literary cue we are given to understand these passages as theological in intent, not literal.
Second, I'm a TE: Theistic Evolutionist. I still believe God created the world. I don't deny that at all. We're just disagreeing on how because you don't know how to read early Genesis!
Saying "abiogenesis," which means "not from biogenesis," is like asking, "Who parked this car here in my spot?" and someone saying, "Not Joe."I have asked many evolutionists how life began and many of them have replied "abiogenesis" so it is a claim of evolutionaries.
Do you mean this question?And how do you account for the fact that YOU cannot answer a simple question?
I think the question is correct. However, the essence of the question was why don't Christians believe the theory that humanity originated with a spark in some bygone chemical soup which magically organized itself into multiple vast and complex ecosystems. The discussion, as usual, degraded into convoluted theory ping-pong, which is in itself a good reason not to accept the theories as anything but good starting points.To be accurate, the thread title is very misleading, since the majority of Christians, accept evolution.
Also...
Over 13,000 christian clergy support evolution.
Now, again, how do you account for the fact that very many christians believe in biological evolution?
I find it hard to prove that I will not be going to a place that does not exist. However, ask me again after you prove that hell exists.Many a word spoken in jest. And of course you can prove you won't be going there?
How many hundreds of thousands of Israelites had Aaron make a golden calf because they didn't know what became of Moses?Hundreds of thousands of scientists, who know far more about the subject than you or I ever will, do believe there is overwhelming evidence that supports evolution.
I believe in God creates through His word and power.
On what do you base your belief? Genesis?
A living virus or whatever that was electro-shocked into existence by whatever macroevolutionists think started life on this planet could not organize itself further, unaided. What is the little critter's lifespan?Find out who made this....assuming you believe it's a designed machine.....
How very deceptive of you to try taking a quote out of context. The very next sentence reads:Yes, I've heard of the Clergy Letter Project.
And this didn't take long. No promotion of a Godless, atheistic, creation seen in the letter. In fact, just the opposite...
"Many of the beloved stories found in the Bible – the Creation, Adam and Eve, Noah and the ark – convey timeless truths about God, human beings, and the proper relationship between Creator and creation expressed in the only form capable of transmitting these truths from generation to generation."
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