The point was that educated, learned people were all witness to a "supernatural" event. These weren't "unscientific" persons.
I know academia doesnt work like that; I said physics can't and will not entertain that type of phenomenon because they operate on a different basis of qualification. They study the natural.
I am a mathematician.
But there is only the natural, remember? Consistent natures?
So what kind of different qualifications are there? Only that what can be "measured"? Weighted and quantified?
If you think this, it is you who don't know how science works.
Which is the point of my critique on academic science as the layperson "standard/arbiter" of truth.
That, I would say, is a problem with the laypersons, not with academic science.
Science is not a system. It is knowledge. Academia is the system. And, yes, as it's own systemic authority, they determine what is accepted, and what isnt. I said this before.
Science is the system. The academia is also a system... a system that works within the system of science.
"Die Wissenschaft ist ein System der Erkenntnisse über die wesentlichen Eigenschaften, kausalen Zusammenhänge und Gesetzmäßigkeiten der Natur, Technik, Gesellschaft und des Denkens, das in Form von Begriffen, Kategorien, Maßbestimmungen, Gesetzen, Theorien und Hypothesen fixiert wird." (Georg Klaus, Manfred Buhr
(Hrsg.):
Philosophisches Wörterbuch. 11. Aufl., Leipzig 1975.)
(Science is a system of cognition of the essential properties, causal relations and regularities of nature, technic, society and though, which is fixated in the form of terms, categories, measurements, laws, theories and hypotheses.) (my translation)
Topology answers the holes in the idea of dark matter, and dark energy. But, the standard model takes a while to change. Most people aren't cognizant of this, and erroneously subscribe to obscelete, ot sophomoric conclusions simply because it is "accepted."
Again, a problem of "most people", not science.
Then, what was the point I was trying to make?
That, if you have to admit that one "impossibility" might be possible, other "impossibilities" might be possible as well.
I told you: the fact that one impossibility is possible means you have to entertain all other impossibilities as possible. The nomenclature is for colloquial reasons; the point alludes to Schrodinger's Cat.
But it seems that you don't entertain this notion.
And you claim to be a mathematician? Really?
I would say wilful ignorance prevents the simplicity of God and His axiomatic natures.
I would say that claiming dogma as axiomatic is something a mathematician should never do.
It opens the door for any impossibility - you have observed that at least one element in the domain of impossibilities is possible, which means your domain is not 100% impossibilities (i.e., the probability that you will choose another impossibility to observe, and then another... and so on is NOT zero.)
I don't have to offer anything; that aforementioned statistic opens up the possibility for every possible impossibility to be observed.
And still you discount the impossibilities that disagree with your "axiomatic" position. That doesn't strike you as weird?
Reading your following paragraph, I must admit that I don't have a clue what your "point" was here. You seem to contradict yourself a little.
You have, indeed, missed the point.
Which one is natural science: a) demons, poltergeists, and ghosts or b) poisons, diseases, harmful [physical] conditions?
What does physics, chemistry and biology study: nature or supernature?
Academic science could not help me in my fight against the only choice that isn't natural science, as it were, precisely because physics et. al do not study the "supernatural." If I waited for that, I would have been seriously injured, or dead.
You seem to have missed my point... and ignored your own previous points.
So now we again have a distinction between "nature" and "supernature"? I thought there was no "supernatural"... only fields that the "academia" does not study.
But it might surprise you: science is not limited to physics, chemistry and biology. If it exists, and it is "natural", it can be studies. Scientific fields are just convenient labels.
But if something has a "consistent nature", it can be studied.
Again, that is my whole point: if there are demons, poltergeists and ghosts... how do they work? This might not be a question for chemistry or biology... let's make a new scientific field of "ghostology"!
But the question remains: how does it work? Is it consistent? Are there rules, are there the "essential properties, causal relations and regularities of nature" that the above definition states?
If there are, it can be scientifically studied and is not different from physics, chemistry, biology... or physiology, sociology or linguistics. The only difference between poison and demons are how to study them.
Or you can go the other way: admit that science
cannot study them, because they don't have this consistent nature... they just "work". Which would support my initial point.