Neither Muslim nor American culture is monolithic. There are many Muslim cultures and many American cultures. Some have a greater number of shared values and customs and others a smaller number. All Muslims are also individuals anf not clones of everyone else in the same environment. They can also change beliefs and values for better or worse.
Neither Muslim nor American culture is monolithic. There are many Muslim cultures and many American cultures. Some have a greater number of shared values and customs and others a smaller number. All Muslims are also individuals and not clones of everyone else in the same environment. They can also change beliefs and values for better or worse.
I understand. Yet some of our most horrible laws, such as those keeping people enslaved, didn't begin to change until they were challenged.
That's also where I get updates and commentary online. Before it was bought out by ESPN, it was known as cricinfo.com.
However, we have the radio commentary on a couple of stations Down Under. The TV coverage here comes through cable/satellite with Fox Sports for the NZ vs Aust ODI and tests. Channel 9, a commercial station, covers it when played in Aust (ODI, T20 and Tests).
Oz
I don't see the correlation of current immigration laws and slavery. The fact is both parties are breaking the current laws. Nations must uphold their sovereignty and do so by enforcing the law.
There are probably some folks here on CF coming out of college or HS looking for decent paying jobs to make ends meet and maybe start a family. If we let corporate America continue to import labor to side step higher salaries for Americans, we will have a lot of young people out of work.
Add to that the jobs exported and supported by both major parties.
Actually, there are more slaves today than there ever have been.The correlation is that strict immigration restrictions and legal slavery are both laws which I find wrong. Conservatives tried to vilify abolitionists and those who tried to help people escape slavery, very illegally. Yet ultimately they triumphed.
The MLB hosts a couple of spring training games in Australia. There way of scouting out your better Cricket players.
Actually, there are more slaves today than there ever have been.
The correlation is that strict immigration restrictions and legal slavery are both laws which I find wrong. Conservatives tried to vilify abolitionists and those who tried to help people escape slavery, very illegally. Yet ultimately they triumphed.
There should be a better way to check out our better cricket players - go to one day international games (ODI), T20 games, and test cricket. The first test against NZ starts in Basin Reserve, Wellington NZ tomorrow, 12 Feb.
Oz
Your correlation deals with the fugitive laws of American slavery?
Ok I can see the logic trail there.
To support the logic and link it to the Abolitionist would mean you support open borders. Meaning any one who can get to the US should stay. Which means no immigration laws at all.
Is this accurate?
Good question. I hear talking heads say "Western interests" need protection.
Western interests is shorthand for corporate profits.
Well, more toward that end than the one we have now, for sure. I'm for a return to Ellis Island, when the waiting period was measured in days vice years.
I'm fine with background checks and physicals, but I love that we're a country made up of people who fled other countries. I just hate that we think that should cease.
Ellis Island fed a need for US economy. There were ample manufacturing jobs back then, loads of construction projects which the European migrants had skills for.
For the shoe to fit today we would be taking in engineers, IT folks and other high tech fields. We are taking in migrants from all points in the world filling those industries legally.
Which causes some strife with American college grads.
Yes there are some low skill service economy jobs for the lesser skilled immigrants but there are already millions of migrants here illegally filling those jobs "unofficially."
That seems to be our main issue. Look at Germany. Good intentions yet a paucity of jobs for the flood they took in.
That's why we have laws.
Islam means submission.
American values include individual liberty.(for now)
When discussing large groups one must resort to majority opinions and practices as opposed to the exceptions or the discussion is meaningless.
Ellis Island fed a need for US economy. There were ample manufacturing jobs back then, loads of construction projects which the European migrants had skills for.
Those unskilled jobs are filled by immigrants, even if they might have broken a law. There are plenty of working Americans who have broken a law. I have sped in my car. When I was younger, I downloaded music without paying for it. I still have a job!
We have a similar need today. While the Millennial generation is huge (thanks largely to immigration) it is not large enough to support or even fill the jobs of all of us retiring baby boomers. It is immigration which will largely save Social Security, for instance.
Yes but by our Constitution and laws you are a citizen.
We were taking in tens of thousands of Irish, Italians, Germans and Poles during the Civil War because they needed more hands to hold muskets.
My point is immigration has always been targeted to fuel and grow our economy.
If we want to take in more than we can absorb, we only need to look to Germany.
If your intent is we make the US a giant refugee camp of unemployed people and their families dependent on local, state and federal agencies, with a quick path to citizenship, then you have made to logical change of political party.
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