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Why I Don't Believe In Atheism's Creation Myth

Agonaces of Susa

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A Neurosurgeon, Not A Darwinist - Forbes.com

 

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The theory of evolution is antiquated and based on Darwin's stunted ideas of cells. He thought cells were simple. Since that time, it has been known that cells are galaxies more complex than Darwin was aware of. Bottom line is that Darwin does not know how life started. Neither does Dawkins.
 
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i second that, my brotha'
 
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then what good is evolution?
 
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No argument about Darwin -- we left him in the dust decades ago.

As for Dawkins, well, at least he's in the field that'll likely yeild some results.
 
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No argument about Darwin -- we left him in the dust decades ago.

As for Dawkins, well, at least he's in the field that'll likely yeild some results.

Dawkins seemed a bit confused when he stated emphatically that evolution is a fact. In addition, he has stated that intelligent design is possible.
 
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brinny: then what good is evolution?


What good is driving a car if it can't help the homeless?

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then what good is evolution?
The hypothesis of evolution is absolutely useless in science.

"[Darwinism is] a kind of amusing 19th century collection of anecdotes that is utterly unlike anything we see in the serious sciences. ... Yeah, biologists do agree that this is the correct theory for the origin and diversification of life, but here are some points you should consider as well: 1) the theory doesn't have any substance, 2) it's preposterous, 3) it's not supported by the evidence and 4) the fact that the biologists are uniformly in agreement about this issue could as well be explained by some solid Marxist interpretation of their economic interests." -- David Berlinksi, author, 2008

Evolution News & Views: ‘Why would I want my doctor to have studied evolution?’

 
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Dawkins seemed a bit confused when he stated emphatically that evolution is a fact.

Things evolve -- we've observed it happening. You can't get much more fact then that.

The desperate, in their infinite desperation, try to shift the semantic goalposts with nonsense such as "That's just 'adaptation!' Show me a dog giving birth to an octopus!" or something equally insipid.

In addition, he has stated that intelligent design is possible.

He did consider panspermia from an alien source as a possibility for the origin of life on Earth -- what of it?
 
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then what good is evolution?

The Theory of Evolution explains the current biodiversity on this planet. That in turn has application for all sorts of things, including but not limited to medicine, agriculture, conservation biology, etc.

Bottom line is that evolution is a useful, applied science and it's not going away any time soon.
 
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Originally Posted by brinny
then what good is evolution?


Bottom line is that it is a theory. It has nothing to offer on the origin of life. It falls flat, along with Darwin falling flat on his face.
 
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Bottom line is that it is a theory. It has nothing to offer on the origin of life. It falls flat, along with Darwin falling flat on his face.

Yes, it's a theory. Just like gravity theory, theory of relativity, germ theory, etc. Do you know what a theory in science is?

As for the origin of life, while I believe the origin of life will have some relevance to the ToE, a lack of an origin of life theory does not invalidate the theory of evolution as it stands. Life still looks like it shares common ancestry regardless of how it originally started.

So no, it's not falling flat at all I'm afraid. If anything, it's become even more relevant in the last couple decades due to the "genomics revolution" currently going on in modern biology.
 
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Originally Posted by brinny
Bottom line is that it is a theory. It has nothing to offer on the origin of life. It falls flat, along with Darwin falling flat on his face.


Evolution is a room full of smoke. There is no evidence to any theories written in the "Origin of Species". The origin of species? He knew nothing about the origin of anything.
 
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Bottom line is that it is a theory. It has nothing to offer on the origin of life. It falls flat, along with Darwin falling flat on his face.

You've had this explained to you before. You therefore either have the poorest memory on record, or you are deliberately being duplicitous in order to score points.

Evolutionary theory has nothing...NOTHING to say about the origins of life! It was never designed for that purpose, it has NEVER spoken on that purpose!

Your ridiculous charge would be like saying "The theory of gravity has nothing to offer about why there are germs - it falls flat"...!

Evolutionary theory explains why the diversity of life we observe (as fact!) has come about. And it does it perfectly. Despite over 150 years of nervous nellies and religious fundamentalists like yourself trying to poke holes in it, it has stood the test of time. So much so, that it is regarded as THE most well supported theory in all of science! The National Science Academy of the US recently voted it as amongst the top 5 developments in all of science - ever!
 
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he used the term intelligent design. He used that term because he was unable to give an answer or "theory" to the origin of life. He was actually nearly stuttering as he spoke it. He seemed to be at a loss.
 
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he used the term intelligent design. He used that term because he was unable to give an answer or "theory" to the origin of life. He was actually nearly stuttering as he spoke it. He seemed to be at a loss.
In your position, I´d be really careful to psychoanalyse other people. It might backfire.
 
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