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Why I do not accept evolution part one

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Denying physical reality because of religious beliefs is a losing proposition.
 
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What does that have to do with evolution?

Check with educators.

From Soup to Cells - the Origin of Life - Evolution 101
evolution.berkeley.edu › evo101

Because these molecules are widespread and are critically important to all life, they are thought to have arisen very early in the history of life and have been ...

A timescale for the origin and evolution of all of life on Earth


The Origins of Life | Harvard Magazine
harvardmagazine.com › 2013/09 › life-s-beginnings

Dimitar Sasselov, director of the Origins of Life Initiative, searches for planets ... Observatory and Harvard College Observatory, the University of Geneva, and ... The planetary conditions on Earth shaped the life that evolved, and life in turn

Theory of evolution on Earth
On Earth life began at least 4 billion years ago and it has been evolving every year. In the beginning all living things on earth were single celled organism, after several years multicellular organism evolved after that diversity in life on earth increased day by day.Dec 12, 2015

Biology and evolution of life science - NCBI
 
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Denying physical reality because of religious beliefs is a losing proposition.

Hence why creationists always seem to paint themselves into a corner in these discussions.
 
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You can't show evidence against stories.
Can can only support scientific claims, or not.
 
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The origin of life is separate from evolution.
And all those sources say not. So...........NxNW.edu seems alone in that conclusion.
Which is ok. I don't mind. I have a couple issues with no scholarly support as well.
 
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You can't show evidence against stories.
Can can only support scientific claims, or not.
Actually you can. If the story can be used to make predictions then one can have evidence against that story.

The scientifically illiterate do not understand how to make predictions from stories.
 
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Actually you can. If the story can be used to make predictions then one can have evidence against that story.

History is entirely faith based.
You can't reproduce history in a lab.
 
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And all those sources say not. So...........NxNW.edu seems alone in that conclusion.
Which is ok. I don't mind. I have a couple issues with no scholarly support as well.
I looked through those sources and none of them suggested that abiogenesis took place by random genetic variation followed by natural selection. Instead, some other process took place which formed the original genomes.
 
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I looked through those sources and none of them suggested that abiogenesis took place by random genetic variation followed by natural selection. Instead, some other process took place which formed the original genomes.

Nor do they say the issues are separated as people imagineate.
In fact, I can only find the claim they are separate in this forum.
 
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I can understand your confusion. Abiogenesis is a separate but related topic to evolution. They treat abiogenesis as a fact in those articles because it is the only concept that is supported by evidence. Like any other rational person they ignore stories that have no support at all. The claim was the evolution relies on abiogenesis. At the most one can only claim that evolution relies on some form of abiogenesis. Whether natural abiogenesis (the most likely and only concept supported by evidence), was planted by aliens (highly speculative and without evidentiary support), or magically poofed into existence (a concept not supported by any evidence nor is there even any evidence that it is remotely possible), the theory deals with life once it exists. Note how the article talking about abiogenesis still have a slight separation from evolution. That is because scientists are cautious in their claims.

And please note your last quote only deals with life after it appears. Or in other words, evolution.
 
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Nor do they say the issues are separated as people imagineate.
How do some people imagineate that the issues are different? All I ever hear is that the processes are different.
 
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Hmm, should we let "Aussie" Pete know that the only way to make an effective COVID19 vaccine is by using our knowledge of evolution? Perhaps he could show the courage of his convictions and refuse the vaccination when it's ready.
 
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Hmm, should we let "Aussie" Pete know that the only way to make an effective COVID19 vaccine is by using our knowledge of evolution? Perhaps he could show the courage of his convictions and refuse the vaccination when it's ready.

He keeps outright denying that evolution has any real world applications.

I suspect the cognitive dissonance resulting from "evolution is false" and "evolution is useful" is too difficult to deal with.
 
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