I usually don't like to scratch an itch that isn't mine, but as a conservative God fearing old man, it appears this itch does now belong to me. I have been observing this forum and it seems to me that there is a confusion going on. Conservative Biblical views are not popular, if they were the whole world would be saved. The proof that conservative Biblical views are not popular can be found at the cross, because Jesus was crucified as a result of them. He wasn't crucified because he carried around a peace sign. He was crucified because He carried His sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God. It is a sad day when the lights of God, being shined before men by God, are being snuffed out on a so called "Christian based forum." Just an old man's ramblings, feel free to disregard if my opinion isn't popular. ....is this site owned by the ACLU or Madam O'hare's decendants? If not, it is hard to tell the difference. Peace in Christ, CT