Why fossil fuels are key to lifting billions of people out of poverty

[Bradskii]

The sciencedirect.com article is about 8 years old and doesn't recognize the inability of "green energy" to provide all of the electricity our world needs and it doesn't appear to recognize that "green energy" fails to provide the enough stability of electric energy in a large, robust economy such as the USA.

That wasn't what you asked. You wanted to know if there will be 'more jobs available in the unstable field of alternative "Green" energy...'

Yes, there will be. Here's some more info: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S026499931630709X

'We find $1 million spending creates 7.49 FTE (full time equivalent) jobs in renewables, 7.72 in Energy Efficient.
Fossil fuel industries support 2.65 FTE jobs per $1 million spending.'

 

[Vambram]

That wasn't what you asked. You wanted to know if there will be 'more jobs available in the unstable field of alternative "Green" energy...'

Yes, there will be. Here's some more info: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S026499931630709X

'We find $1 million spending creates 7.49 FTE (full time equivalent) jobs in renewables, 7.72 in Energy Efficient.
Fossil fuel industries support 2.65 FTE jobs per $1 million spending.'

How relevant is a article that is almost 8 years old?

 

[Say it aint so]

The only one of your sources that I consider to be a viable source is newscientist.com

The sciencedirect.com article is about 8 years old and doesn't recognize the inability of "green energy" to provide all of the electricity our world needs and it doesn't appear to recognize that "green energy" fails to provide the enough stability of electric energy in a large, robust economy such as the USA.

No, you don't recognize it. I said green energy provides far more employment today than fossil fuels ever will. I mean there is no question about it.

 

[Vambram]

No, you don't recognize it. I said green energy provides far more employment today than fossil fuels ever will. I mean there is no question about it.

There are PLENTY of questions about it.

 

[Aaron112]

There are PLENTY of questions about it.

Noting likewise "green" or other color energy so far produces more and worse pollution in air, sea, land, and our food supply, pollution that is fatal to unknown thousands every day.

 

[Aaron112]

p.s. if as he said the president STOPPED the forcing of electric vehicles on the public , that is good!

And will greatly increase jobs in other areas.

 

[Bradskii]

How relevant is a article that is almost 8 years old?

What? Do you think that in the last few years the situation has reversed? Good grief, I could have highlighted the date and said 'Look, this is what it was like 8 years ago!'

If you have any money to invest and your broker asks 'Green or fossil?' would you really go fossil? Bear in mind that the race is already running and green is lengths ahead (see the figures you've been given). And now you have a new jockey who's intent on beating, if not a dead horse, but one on its last legs.

(Bradskii checks his solar panel app)

And good news. I just sold another 34kWh to the electricity company today.

 

[Bradskii]

There are PLENTY of questions about it.

You must have access to info we don't. Can you share it?

 

[Aaron112]

WIRED
wired.com › science › climate desk › solar panels are starting to die, leaving behind toxic trash
Solar Panels Are Starting to Die, Leaving Behind Toxic Trash | WIRED
August 22, 2020 - Photovoltaic panels are a boon for clean energy but are tricky to recycle. As the oldest ones expire, get ready for a solar e-waste glut.

Sciencing
sciencing.com› toxic-chemicals-solar-panels-18393.html

Toxic Chemicals In Solar Panels | Sciencing
March 24, 2022 - During manufacture and after the disposal of solar panels, they release hazardous chemicals including cadmium, silicon tetrachloride and lead.

 

[Pommer]

Noting likewise "green" or other color energy so far produces more and worse pollution in air, sea, land, and our food supply, pollution that is fatal to unknown thousands every day.

I know wind-turbine electrical generators can be hazardous to birds, but if it comes down to power for my iPad over 0.012 dead birds?, I’m charging.

 

[Pommer]

WIRED
wired.com › science › climate desk › solar panels are starting to die, leaving behind toxic trash
Solar Panels Are Starting to Die, Leaving Behind Toxic Trash | WIRED
August 22, 2020 - Photovoltaic panels are a boon for clean energy but are tricky to recycle. As the oldest ones expire, get ready for a solar e-waste glut.

Sciencing
sciencing.com› toxic-chemicals-solar-panels-18393.html
Toxic Chemicals In Solar Panels | Sciencing
March 24, 2022 - During manufacture and after the disposal of solar panels, they release hazardous chemicals including cadmium, silicon tetrachloride and lead.

“Tricky to recycle”=“it’s not cheap”.
When more recycling comes in, it would be profitable if they could get the costs [safely] down, (or maybe the boon of “deregulation” will save us and they can just chuck it out back?)