Why don't protestants bless Mary?

[JoeP222w]

Scripture says that all nations will call Mary blessed. Why is it that so many Protestants refuse to do so? Are they so afraid of appearing Catholic that they are willing to disrespect the Mother of our Lord? The only time they ever even talk about Mary when they either drag her out for Christmas or, in extreme cases, when they are disparaging her to say she was merely an incubator and no one special. What is with that?

I don't know of any Protestant that denies that Mary was blessed.

At the same time, we are not to elevate anyone, living or dead, beyond who they are (or were): fallen sinners, saved by the grace of God alone.

In your title, you wrote "Why don't protestants bless Mary?"

Please define what you mean by "bless" Mary?

 

[LostMarbels]

Mary is just an individual used by God to carryout his will. I practice Christ-ianity, not Mary-ianity. Christ is the focus, but some are putting all their focus on a human being instead of the Christ.

 

[Albion]

Mary is just an individual used by God to carryout his will. I practice Christ-ianity, not Mary-ianity. Christ is the focus, but some are putting all their focus on a human being instead of the Christ.

With some people, that's true. Although they deny it, they do believe that she dispenses all graces and forgiveness on behalf of her Son and is the co-redeemer of the world for having given birth to his physical body.

But you'll never get them to realize that all the worship practices they engage in with her as the object of their devotion is anything more than mere respect, so often have they been told that there's nothing wrong with their actions or beliefs...except, of course, that they should expect ignorant and spiteful members of other denominations to accuse them of it.

 

[concretecamper]

Mary is just an individual used by God to carryout his will.

Scripture is very clear Mary was not used by God. When one consents, you cannot possibly say he/she was used.

Christ is the focus

Amen! Christ always should be the focus.

but some are putting all their focus on a human being instead of the Christ.

I know what you mean. I mean really, some follow Henry VIII like he is a god and is infallible....they'll of course deny it but the evidence is clear.

Of course I am just kidding, these sorts sit on the fence and as a result have no truth to guide them...such a shame.

 

[LostMarbels]

Scripture is very clear Mary was not used by God. When one consents, you cannot possibly say he/she was used.

The word 'used' means to be employed for a purpose; or utilized. I do not understand how Mary wasn't employed for a purpose; or utilized by God.

 

[Grafted In]

I don't think anyone except the occasional uncatechized person is making His mother an idol.

I disagree.
When I notice someone has
their eyes focused more on the creation than the Creator we are looking at idolotry.

 

[Grafted In]

Double post.

 

[Grafted In]

Open Heart, we have conversed several times in the past. I guess the only question I have for you is why do you not call all born again Christians blessed?
Did not Jesus say "Blessed are the peace makers" He was referring to those who make peace with God through the cross.
It makes me sad to see you having come from Jewdaism with all its laws to a Christian denomination that binds it's members with the laws of man.
Haven't you wasted enough time on the whole Mary thing. Otherwise you are sinning by not continuously blessing every Christian as you chose to do with Mary. We get it that she gave birth to Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, but it seems as though so many emphasize that more than Jesus Christ Himself. It"s a false teaching designed to get your eyes off of Jesus.

 

[Bryan G]

I didn't say this God did and Peter the apostles also said it.

Who said their great commission has failed, they are not finished yet, they are going to re-establish the highway and this time they are going to bring along with them all of Israel, who is the symbol of the prodigal son who went to a far country and sold his inheritance. The Jews of today will come to her as the 11th hour workmen and then you will know that they are the handy work of God. You can join them to, bring others along as well.

Mark my words this is the only highway of God and when you see it then you will know that it is the fruit of the Spirit of God. Those who belong under Rome can come as well for this is where the true ecumenical movement is.

Thank you kindly.

First of all, nowhere does the Bible (God's word) say the catholic church is "the church", The Roman Emperor Constantine established himself as the head of the church around 313 A.D.. The first actual Pope in Rome was probably Leo I (440-461 A.D.), although some claim that Gregory I was the first (590-604 A.D.). This was long after Peter was dead. What the catholics believe about Peter being the first pope is not Biblical, it's what they made up to justify their existence.

The ecumenical movement is of the devil. The Bible clearly says that in the end, it will not be a huge bunch of followers saved, no, it will be a remnant, a few:
Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Does the catholic church keep the commandments of God?
Exodus 20:8 “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath of the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who [e]stays with you. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and made it holy.
Oh, but do we need to still keep the commandments now that Jesus has risen?
Matthew 5:17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 “For truly I say to you, UNTIL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS AWAY, NOT THE SMALLEST LETTER OR STROKE SHALL PASS FROM THE LAW until all is accomplished. 19 “Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Has heaven and earth passed away?
Your ecumenical movement is under the assumption that Jesus wants all to unite, but Jesus said Matthew 10:34“Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35“For I came to SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND A DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER-IN-LAW; 36and A MAN’S ENEMIES WILL BE THE MEMBERS OF HIS HOUSEHOLD.
People will not get along because of the disagreements in following God. I don't see anything like an ecumenical movement in the Bible.... Protestants left the church for valid reasons, the catholic church strayed from God's word, and nothing has changed. True followers of God will not join with them. It will be a remnant as the book of Revelation has stated.

 

[Albion]

Scripture is very clear Mary was not used by God. When one consents, you cannot possibly say he/she was used.

You're thinking of "ABused," not "used." Of course, he made use of Mary, even though she gave her consent.

I know what you mean. I mean really, some follow Henry VIII like he is a god and is infallible

Now you're posting nonsense simply in order to be outrageous. Henry was a Catholic until his death and was never declared to be a heretic by Rome; and no one thinks or thought that he was a god or infallible or a Pope or anything else like that.

 

[concretecamper]

Of course, he made use of Mary

So you're saying the Anglican view of God is more in line with Islam than Christianity. Interesting. Here is a good read. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/davidh...why-god-isnt-in-the-business-of-using-people/

Now you're posting nonsense simply in order to be outrageous.

That is how we all view you...get the point?

 

[Albion]

So you're saying the Anglican view of God is more in line with Islam than Christianity.

If I had intended to say such a ridiculous thing, I would have said it.

Want to try again for something outrageous enough to really offend me? Or we could just return to trying to get you to understand the meaning of the word "used."

 

[concretecamper]

If I had intended to say such a ridiculous thing, I would have said it.

Want to try again for something outrageous enough to really offend me? Or we could just return to trying to get you to understand the meaning of the word "used."

You're the one who used the word "used". If you would like to retract it then be all means go ahead. If not please contributing something to the discussion.

To Allah, people are property and are used by him. God does not use people. Attempting to confuse the word used to fit your mistake (if in fact it was a mistake) ain't goanna fly.

 

[Berean777]

First of all, nowhere does the Bible (God's word) say the catholic church is "the church", The Roman Emperor Constantine established himself as the head of the church around 313 A.D.. The first actual Pope in Rome was probably Leo I (440-461 A.D.), although some claim that Gregory I was the first (590-604 A.D.). This was long after Peter was dead. What the catholics believe about Peter being the first pope is not Biblical, it's what they made up to justify their existence.

The ecumenical movement is of the devil. The Bible clearly says that in the end, it will not be a huge bunch of followers saved, no, it will be a remnant, a few:
Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Does the catholic church keep the commandments of God?
Exodus 20:8 “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath of the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who [e]stays with you. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and made it holy.
Oh, but do we need to still keep the commandments now that Jesus has risen?
Matthew 5:17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 “For truly I say to you, UNTIL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS AWAY, NOT THE SMALLEST LETTER OR STROKE SHALL PASS FROM THE LAW until all is accomplished. 19 “Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Has heaven and earth passed away?
Your ecumenical movement is under the assumption that Jesus wants all to unite, but Jesus said Matthew 10:34“Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35“For I came to SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND A DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER-IN-LAW; 36and A MAN’S ENEMIES WILL BE THE MEMBERS OF HIS HOUSEHOLD.
People will not get along because of the disagreements in following God. I don't see anything like an ecumenical movement in the Bible.... Protestants left the church for valid reasons, the catholic church strayed from God's word, and nothing has changed. True followers of God will not join with them. It will be a remnant as the book of Revelation has stated.

You realise that God blessed Saint Mary above all other women, right?

The thread states why don't Protestants bless Mary?

Who are we to not bless Mary if God blessed her, that is my statement of contention with all Protestants.

Lastly I am no Catholic and you must have misunderstood my previous post, thinking that I was endorsing Catholicism, which is obviously not the case, even though I love my Catholic brothers and sisters and that includes all brothers and sisters in Christ.

So I remain faithful to the word of the Lord and I say blessed is the womb that brought forth our King and saviour Jesus Christ.

 

[Albion]

You're the one who used the word "used".

No, LostMarbels used it and I merely commented about it thereafter. It's ludicrous to act as though that word means something unflattering in the case of the Virgin Birth and the Incarnation.[/QUOTE]

 

[Grafted In]

Alright already. Stand on your head and bless Mary all day.
Where does that leave Jesus Christ? Wasted energy, wasted time, a deeper understanding of Him wasted.

 

[LostMarbels]

Mary is a vessel used by God to bring forth his will on earth. A sinner needing Jesus just like us. The Christmas story is not about Mary. She is just a servant of God.

 

[Bryan G]

You realise that God blessed Saint Mary above all other women, right?

The thread states why don't Protestants bless Mary?

Who are we to not bless Mary if God blessed her, that is my statement of contention with all Protestants.

Lastly I am no Catholic and you must have misunderstood my previous post, thinking that I was endorsing Catholicism, which is obviously not the case, even though I love my Catholic brothers and sisters and that includes all brothers and sisters in Christ.

So I remain faithful to the word of the Lord and I say blessed is the womb that brought forth our King and saviour Jesus Christ.

I never really heard of us blessing Mary. God blessed her womb, but do we have the power to bless anything?
I started to look this up and contemplate it, then I realized, there is no way we can bless her, or ask God to bless her, she is dead, asleep in Christ.
Also, there is no need to, God already did, can we out do what God has done?
God has told us things to do, in his word we know about communion, praying and so on, but never has his word mentioned anything about us doing anything about Mary...
Can you show anything that says Mary is to be held up higher than anyone else? She is an ordinary person like me, blessed is her womb, nothing about her, only her womb.

 

[Grafted In]

I never really heard of us blessing Mary. God blessed her womb, but do we have the power to bless anything?
I started to look this up and contemplate it, then I realized, there is no way we can bless her, or ask God to bless her, she is dead, asleep in Christ.
Also, there is no need to, God already did, can we out do what God has done?
God has told us things to do, in his word we know about communion, praying and so on, but never has his word mentioned anything about us doing anything about Mary...
Can you show anything that says Mary is to be held up higher than anyone else? She is an ordinary person like me, blessed is her womb, nothing about her, only her womb.

And I'd like to add that the supposed first pope did not mention her at all in his 2 epistles. Why is that? By the way many spend so much time with their eyes in Mary, you'd think Peter would have devoted at least one whole epistle to her. Why don't you go before God and ask Him why Peter doesn't bless Mary?

 

[Berean777]

I never really heard of us blessing Mary. God blessed her womb, but do we have the power to bless anything?
I started to look this up and contemplate it, then I realized, there is no way we can bless her, or ask God to bless her, she is dead, asleep in Christ.
Also, there is no need to, God already did, can we out do what God has done?
God has told us things to do, in his word we know about communion, praying and so on, but never has his word mentioned anything about us doing anything about Mary...
Can you show anything that says Mary is to be held up higher than anyone else? She is an ordinary person like me, blessed is her womb, nothing about her, only her womb.

I will disagree with you that she is an ordinary person, just like you and me. The fact remains out of all the women that were born or will ever be born Mary was the favoured. In other words Mary was singled out as the better of any person for the important role that brought humanity salvation.

Can I or you say that we were favoured or better than other men and women?

No! So we are not like her at alll. We are generic branded friend whilst Mary has the brand special written all over her in spades.

Finally to bless someone does not mean that you need the authority to bless. The word bless in Aramaic or Hebrew is Barack which we say continuously to God himself. For example Blessed are you God almighty. In no why are we imparting our blessing over God rather we are faithfully testifying that God is the blessed one. This would be related to his Holiness. Like Jesus is the Christ or annointed one by God, so the word Barack/blessed has the same meaning.

When we say Mary is blessed we are testifying in agreement with God that Mary is Holy because in her was the Holy One. In that respect if in our hearts we don't want to bless Mary, then there is on display an act of contention with God, which implies disagreement with him. So when we don't bless or at least acknowledge Mary is Holy, then we are placing ourself in disagreement with God. In this case we are deemed silent objectors which is what it equates to friend.