"Why doesn't God heal amputees?"

~RENEE~ · Mar 4, 2009

In Renee's view, God seems the equivalent of Santa Claus. You just sit on His lap and tell Him what you want.

Wrong in my view God is a loving father. That takes very very good care of his children.

~RENEE~ · Mar 4, 2009

But can you lay down your personal wants and desires and completely surrender yourself, your will, desires and all, into the hands of God no matter how He chooses to work things out in your life?

Everything I have everything I am is in his hands and he loves me enough to take good care of me to provide for my every need. Including my healing in every asspect of my life. Yes he is that loving.

nephilimiyr · Mar 4, 2009

To answer the OP, because those people all deserved to lose a limb or two? Actually, I have no idea.

I read through all the points in the OP and really don't agree with any of them.

~RENEE~ · Mar 4, 2009

Believe
G4100
πιστεύω
pisteuō
pist-yoo'-o
From G4102; to have faith (in, upon, or with respect to, a person or thing), that is, credit; by implication to entrust (especially one’s spiritual well being to Christ): - believe (-r), commit (to trust), put in trust with.

Faith
G4102
πίστις
pistis
pis'-tis
From G3982; persuasion, that is, credence; moral conviction (of religious truth, or the truthfulness of God or a religious teacher), especially reliance upon Christ for salvation; abstractly constancy in such profession; by extension the system of religious (Gospel) truth itself: - assurance, belief, believe, faith, fidelity.
Trust

G1679
ἐλπίζω
elpizō
el-pid'-zo
From G1680; to expect or confide: - (have, thing) hope (-d) (for), trust.

Notice that believe and faith are intermingled Read them carefully you wil see they are.

Hm trust means to expect. I expect that God will live up to his word and not lie about healing.
Jer 17:14 Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed; save me, and I shall be saved: for thou art my praise.

Healing

H7495
רפה רפא
râphâ' râphâh
raw-faw', raw-faw'
A primitive root; properly to mend (by stitching), that is, (figuratively) to cure: - cure, (cause to) heal, physician, repair, X thoroughly, make whole. See H7503.

Isn't he wonderful that he loves us enough to heal us.

JimB · Mar 4, 2009

~RENEE~ said:
Believe
G4100
πιστεύω
pisteuō
pist-yoo'-o
From G4102; to have faith (in, upon, or with respect to, a person or thing), that is, credit; by implication to entrust (especially ones spiritual well being to Christ): - believe (-r), commit (to trust), put in trust with.

Faith
G4102
πίστις
pistis
pis'-tis
From G3982; persuasion, that is, credence; moral conviction (of religious truth, or the truthfulness of God or a religious teacher), especially reliance upon Christ for salvation; abstractly constancy in such profession; by extension the system of religious (Gospel) truth itself: - assurance, belief, believe, faith, fidelity.
Trust

G1679
ἐλπίζω
elpizō
el-pid'-zo
From G1680; to expect or confide: - (have, thing) hope (-d) (for), trust.

Notice that believe and faith are intermingled Read them carefully you wil see they are.

Hm trust means to expect. I expect that God will live up to his word and not lie about healing.
Jer 17:14 Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed; save me, and I shall be saved: for thou art my praise.

Healing

H7495
רפה רפא
râphâ' râphâh
raw-faw', raw-faw'
A primitive root; properly to mend (by stitching), that is, (figuratively) to cure: - cure, (cause to) heal, physician, repair, X thoroughly, make whole. See H7503.

Isn't he wonderful that he loves us enough to heal us.

Sure. But then I think every P/C in this forum believes that.

How does this relate to the OP?

~Jim

I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. ~C.S. Lewis

~RENEE~ · Mar 4, 2009

Go back and read page 4

JimfromOhio · Mar 4, 2009

The truth is also in the biblical fact that our God good causes and/or allow sickness and suffering. Job is a classic case of this truth, as well as Jesus Christ on the cross. God's purposes could be many and one of them could be for the good of the person enduring it, as in the case of both. Or it can be for punishment, as in Leviticus 26:15,16; Deuteronomy 28:61; Psalm 107:17,17; 2 Kings 5:27; Micah 6:13; Acts 5:4-6, 9-10; 13:11; and 1 Corinthians 11:30.

Why do Christians get sick?

Some sickness comes from God. In Exodus 4: 11 God told Moses: "Who has made man's mouth? Or who makes him dumb or deaf, or seeing or blind? Is it not I, the Lord?" Stated that simply and directly, the idea sounds repulsive.

Would a loving God want anyone to suffer?

Why would he make a man dumb, deaf, or blind? Yet again and again in Scripture we see that there is far more to God's sovereign plan than our finite minds can comprehend.

God made the disabled and infirm. Babies are born every day with defects.

Many children grow up with congenital deformities. Some people have illnesses that last for years. While it is unexplainable according to our human logic, it is all God's plan and a gift of God's love.

Take me for an example, I was born deaf. God knew me before the conception. That's eternal. God created my inmost being and knitted me together in my mother's womb. This is what the LORD says "He who made you, Who formed you in the womb, and Who will help you and that before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart. With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God. I was DEAF before I was born so God knew that while my body was being formed. Therefore, time should be eternal because God's time is eternal.

God uses circumstances to bring people to Christ, not just to heal them. God's main objective in this world is to save as many as possible from eternal death. People focus on healing is the best opportunity for all while God have other plans. No one knows what is God's specific will and plans for each believer.

Some sickness comes from Satan. Luke 13:11-13 is the account of how Jesus healed a woman who "for eighteen years had had a sickness caused by a spirit; and she was bent double, and could not straighten up at all." When Jesus saw her he said, "Woman, you are freed from your sickness."

God may let Satan cause someone to be sick for his own reasons. The classic biblical example is Job.

Some sickness is chastening for sin. In the twelfth chapter of Numbers we see Miriam getting leprosy because of disobedience to the Lord. And then we see her being healed because of her repentance. In Deuteronomy 28:20-22 God warned the Israelites that he would smite them with pestilence if they sinned. In 2 Kings 5 Gehazi, the servant of Elisha, gets leprosy because of his greed.

The psalmist wrote, "Before I was afflicted I went astray, but now I keep Thy word" (Ps. 119:67).

JimB · Mar 4, 2009

The question posed by the OP (Why doesnt God heal amputees?) is one of those gotcha questions atheist like to pose against P/Cs. Its a good question posed for all the wrong reasons but it does effect those sincere people who want an answer. The OP provides a good answer, IMO, but which I feel, based on 1 Peter 3.15, deserves an answer.

If you do not agree with the answer provided in the OP, I would like to hear how you would answer it.

~Jim

I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. ~C.S. Lewis

EdieR · Mar 4, 2009

Amputees do NOT need a healing, They are not sick. They need a Divine Miracle
to be made whole.

nephilimiyr · Mar 4, 2009

~RENEE~ said:
Go back and read page 4

Not everybody has the same post count per page as you do Renee.

I have 30 posts per page, do you?

gennaoanothen · Mar 4, 2009

EdieR said:
Amputees do NOT need a healing, They are not sick. They need a Divine Miracle
to be made whole.

you beat me to it !!!!!!!!!

EdieR · Mar 4, 2009

gennaoanothen said:
you beat me to it !!!!!!!!!

I was very bothered in the spirit about this topic So I pondered on it all afternoon
and then the answer came to me by the Holy Spirit.

It takes the gifts of "faith" and "working of miracles" to make a person whole.
This is so totally different than the "gift of healings."

gennaoanothen · Mar 4, 2009

EdieR said:
I was very bothered in the spirit about this topic So I pondered on it all afternoon
and then the answer came to me by the Holy Spirit.

It takes the gifts of "faith" and "working of miracles" to make a person whole.
This is so totally different than the "gift of healings."

It is so great when the Holy Spirit gives you the answer

EdieR · Mar 4, 2009

Absolutely!

JimB · Mar 5, 2009

EdieR said:
Amputees do NOT need a healing, They are not sick. They need a Divine Miracle
to be made whole.

But, Edie, you have only sidestepped the question The follow-up question is going to be, You believe in miracles dont you? Then why doesnt God work miracles for amputees? And we are right back where we started.

You have to dig deeper for answers that really satisfy.

~Jim

I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. ~C.S. Lewis

EdieR · Mar 5, 2009

Jimbeaux said:
But, Edie, you have only sidestepped the question The follow-up question is going to be, You believe in miracles dont you? Then why doesnt God work miracles for amputees? And we are right back where we started.

You have to dig deeper for answers that really satisfy.

~Jim

I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. ~C.S. Lewis

I didn't side-step the question I answered it .
I could have gone further with my answer .

Yeshua cleansed the 10 lepers but only 1 was made whole.
Why?

JimfromOhio · Mar 5, 2009

EdieR said:
I didn't side-step the question I answered it .
I could have gone further with my answer .

Yeshua cleansed the 10 lepers but only 1 was made whole.
Why?

Then you are saying that amputees are whole as much as those who are deaf, blind, disabled and diseased.

EdieR · Mar 5, 2009

No, I am not. I want to know if Jimbeaux knows why only 1 of the lepers was made whole.

JimfromOhio · Mar 5, 2009

EdieR said:
No, I am not. I want to know if Jimbeaux knows why only 1 of the lepers was made whole.

So, by being whole shows their true salvation?

Whole as in healthy in the eyes of Christians or whole as in spiritually healthy in the eyes of God?

EdieR · Mar 5, 2009

JimfromOhio said:
So, by being whole shows their true salvation?

Whole as in healthy in the eyes of Christians or whole as in spiritually healthy in the eyes of God?

That is not what I said. Is the above what you believe?

"Why doesn't God heal amputees?"

Legend

Legend

I've Been Keepin My Eyes Wide Open

Legend

Legend

Legend

Life of Trials :)

Legend

Member

I've Been Keepin My Eyes Wide Open

Jesus-my-Lord

Member

Jesus-my-Lord

Member

Legend

Member

Life of Trials :)

Member

Life of Trials :)

Member

Similar threads

Privacy & Transparency

Privacy & Transparency