Why doesnt creationism need any data?

[Nathan Poe]

I meant in general,

So did I.

 

[AV1611VET]

You couldn't care less whether you're wrong, could you?

Does it matter?

Wrong is wrong, irrespective of whether anyone cares or not.

And that's what you guys are here for: to make sure we're "wrong"; whether we care enough to build a theme park around our errors, or whether we venture into the world of suppositions to keep from saying, "I don't know" -- you guys will make sure we're "exposed", won't you?

 

[Split Rock]

Does it matter?

Wrong is wrong, irrespective of whether anyone cares or not.

And that's what you guys are here for: to make sure we're "wrong"; whether we care enough to build a theme park around our errors, or whether we venture into the world of suppositions to keep from saying, "I don't know" -- you guys will make sure we're "exposed", won't you?

Sad that you guys are always the victims... or is it that you always portray yourselves as the victims...?

 

[AV1611VET]

Sad that you guys are always the victims...

Why? do we steal your thunder?

 

[Loudmouth]

Big deal -- they had evidence to back up Phlogiston too.

I guess that means that Phlogiston is a step above creationism.

Don't know -- did you read my link?

Leviticus 26:16 I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart:

Read especially what King David died of in Psalm 38, and what it was doing to his bone structure.

Still waiting for you to show that this causes a reduction in cranium size, prognathus, lack of a chin, and changes in wrist morphology.

All I have seen so far is a lot of hot air.

 

[Split Rock]

Why? do we steal your thunder?

I think we stole your thunder when anti-evolution laws were overturned and evolution was emphasized in public schools, after Sputnik.

 

[AV1611VET]

I think we stole your thunder when anti-evolution laws were overturned and evolution was emphasized in public schools, after Sputnik.

Sputnik anagrams to "stink up".

 

[mzungu]

This is what happens when we compare oranges to transistors.

Religion is faith and ToE is science. Each belongs to totally different fields.

Creationists who deny science are basically confusing two totally dissimilar things.

The Bible is a spiritual Book and the vast majority of Christians worldwide see it as such. This is why they have no quarrels with science and the two live side by side happily.

I believe creationists feel threatened by science simply because science is not a spiritual thing and it is something that is "visible". I often wonder if their faith is so weak as to feel threatened by the physical world to the point where they deny it and conjure up all sorts of excuses in order to "fit" their faith into an empirical "box".

 

[dad]

Homo erectus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Homo erectus (from the Latin ērĭgĕre, "to put up, set upright") is an extinct species of hominid that originated in Africa—and spread as far as India, China and Java—from the end of the Pliocene epoch to the later Pleistocene, about 1.8 to 1.3 million years ago

Many paleoanthropologists still debate the definition of H. erectus and H. ergaster as separate species. Some call H. ergaster the direct African ancestor of H. erectus, proposing that it emigrated out of Africa and migrated into Asia, branching into a distinct species.[18] Most dispense with the species-name ergaster, making no distinction between such fossils as the Turkana Boy and Peking Man.

Though "Homo ergaster" has gained some acceptance as a valid taxon, these two are still usually defined as distinct African and Asian populations of the larger species H. erectus.

Fancy names aside, were these things men or not?

 

[dad]

Last I checked, the Bible was written by men.

You are unable to check. Overruled.

 

[dad]

Look at the cranium size, the prognathus, canines, etc. H. erectus is much, much, much more like modern humans than orangutans.

So is it a man or not?

 

[cubinity]

You are unable to check. Overruled.

Overruled? What, are you a judge?
And, um, he is able to check, as the Bible identifies its writers by name and several other indicators that they are men. What are you talking about?

 

[Doveaman]

Last I checked, the Bible was written by men.

Checked what?

Last I checked, the Bible was written by God through men.

"For it is God who works in you both to will and to do according to His good purpose." (Phil 2:13).

 

[Loudmouth]

Checked what?

Last I checked, the Bible was written by God through men.

"For it is God who works in you both to will and to do according to His good purpose." (Phil 2:13).

So says a man.

 

[dad]

Overruled? What, are you a judge?
And, um, he is able to check, as the Bible identifies its writers by name and several other indicators that they are men. What are you talking about?

He can't check if God inspired it. Neither can you. Obviously. All can judge that unless insane. So, can you judge now?

 

[dad]

So says a man.

And you, man, have you something informed to say about it? Or is this some silly 'God used men to speak to the world of men, so it was all just men, blah..'?

 

[cubinity]

He can't check if God inspired it. Neither can you. Obviously. All can judge that unless insane. So, can you judge now?

He didn't say anything about checking on the inspiration.
He clearly said he checked who wrote it it. The writers are identified in the text.
Ad hominem overlooked.

 

[dad]

He didn't say anything about checking on the inspiration.

If God wrote it through men, he would have to to know if God was there behind it, inspiring, and totally responsible, to be able to make an intelligent comment, as would you.

 

[cubinity]

If God wrote it through men, he would have to to know if God was there behind it, inspiring, and totally responsible, to be able to make an intelligent comment, as would you.

If God authored it through the hands of men, then it was still the hands of men that wrote it. Perhaps you fail to understand that writing is strickly a physical activity.

 

[dad]

If God authored it through the hands of men, then it was still the hands of men that wrote it. Perhaps you fail to understand that writing is strickly a physical activity.

I am interested in where the words came from. The biblical writings were anything BUT a strictly physical activity. It was men moved by the Holy Spirit, and Loudmouth can't see that in action thousands of years ago. Really. I am being patient here, but would suggest you be careful about siding with evos.