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Why does it matter?

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Creationists- Why does it matter which way you think god created? Your salvation rests on accepting Jesus Christ as your lord and savior and accepting that he died on the cross for our sins and was ressurected.

So tell me, why does it matter how god created?
 

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Genesis tells us that we were created after God's own image. If we just happened by chance and circumstance, that kind of throws out the whole point of a loving Creator God. To me, it would make our lives without reason. We'd be no more valuable than dirt.
 
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Self Improvement said:
Creationists- Why does it matter which way you think god created? Your salvation rests on accepting Jesus Christ as your lord and savior and accepting that he died on the cross for our sins and was ressurected.

So tell me, why does it matter how god created?

I can only speak for myself and for me it comes down to using the mind and reasoning power endowed upon me by my Creator to understand and fully comprehend the elements of His creation and His word.
 
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Genesis tells us that we were created after God's own image. If we just happened by chance and circumstance, that kind of throws out the whole point of a loving Creator God. To me, it would make our lives without reason. We'd be no more valuable than dirt.

a) If God guided it evolution wouldn't be "just chance and circumstance"

b) do you really think it was a reference to the physical image of God?

He's meant to be invisible according to the new testament

According to the old testament if you look upon him you die though

And moses looked upon him and lived

hmmmm
 
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kingreaper said:
a) If God guided it evolution wouldn't be "just chance and circumstance"

b) do you really think it was a reference to the physical image of God?

He's meant to be invisible according to the new testament

According to the old testament if you look upon him you die though

And moses looked upon him and lived

hmmmm

when the Bible talks about looking at God it is understood by most Biblical scholars that this reference is Christ. God as the Trinity explains when Christ says that no one has seen the Father, that He is referring to the fact that they can "see" the Father in the Son. But I agree this is better placed in Apologetics rather than here.
 
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How do you know god said that?
because he uses the word yom in hebrew which is singular for day, where as if he was speaking of days or seasons he would of used it in the pluare form, Study hebrew and see. I havent but i did look up this part of genesis because of questions like yours. Did you know you can not curse God in pure hebrew.
 
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Novaknight1 said:
Good question. It matters because He says in SIX DAYS HE MADE IT. Theistic Evolution says He is lying at that point.
No they don't. They're saying the men who wrote the Bible didn't know what they were talking about.

Bibliolatry is worshipping the Bible as if it were God, and forgetting that it was written by a bunch of mere fallable men.
 
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InspiredHome said:
Genesis tells us that we were created after God's own image. If we just happened by chance and circumstance, that kind of throws out the whole point of a loving Creator God. To me, it would make our lives without reason. We'd be no more valuable than dirt.
1. Evolution doesn't mean there's no god. It just means that one particular popularly fable isn't really true. That's all.

2. We already know that fable isn't true for many other reasons having little or nothing to do with evolution.

3. If I could prove to you that no god existed, I bet I could then offer you a dumptruck full of a couple tonnes of good quality planting soil in exchange for just 7lbs of your baby, and you still wouldn't accept the trade, even if you really needed a couple tonnes of good dirt.

Not believing in God anymore isn't any different than not believing in Santa Clause anymore. Both turn out to be an intellectual relief that doesn't devaluate life at all. And for many of us, it is a dramatic improvement. I have heard and read many comments from ex-believers that relinquishing dogmatism was like turning on a light and actually seeing the world for the first time.

"I have something to say to the religionist who feels atheists never say anything positive: You are an intelligent human being. Your life is valuable for its own sake. You are not second-class in the universe, deriving meaning and purpose from some other mind. You are not inherently evil--you are inherently human, possessing the positive rational potential to help make this a world of morality, peace and joy. Trust yourself."
"There is joy in rationality, happiness in clarity of mind. Free thought is thrilling and fulfilling--absolutely essential to mental health and happiness."
"For my money, I'll bet on reason and humanistic kindness. Even if I am wrong I will have enjoyed my life, the existence of which is under little dispute."
--former reverend, Dan Barker; Losing Faith in Faith; from Preacher to Atheist
 
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william jay schroeder said:
because he uses the word yom in hebrew which is singular for day, where as if he was speaking of days or seasons he would of used it in the pluare form, Study hebrew and see. I havent but i did look up this part of genesis because of questions like yours. Did you know you can not curse God in pure hebrew.
You didn't answer my question: How do you KNOW god said that?
 
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Self Improvement said:
You didn't answer my question: How do you KNOW god said that?
you are trying to confuse the subject by givening a question that can not be answered. you can not believe we are really here in your thinking, I believe because i feel it and what has happened in my life can not be explained by mans science. If you wish to live and rely on mans wisdom go ahead, but dont tell me I'm not certain in what i'm certain about. ARON- Ra you need to lay of the Bible bashing because it makes your rather good intelligance seem weak. You have to expereance Faith and knowing Christ to fully understand it. *
 
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Self Improvement said:
Creationists- Why does it matter which way you think god created? Your salvation rests on accepting Jesus Christ as your lord and savior and accepting that he died on the cross for our sins and was ressurected.

So tell me, why does it matter how god created?

Once you understand the phrase; "For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul?", you will understand why it matters, but not until. ;)
 
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Carico said:
Once you understand the phrase; "For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul?", you will understand why it matters, but not until. ;)

I do understand this phrase.

And now you could perhaps explain why believing in a divine creation via evolution means gaining the world and forfeiting your soul, while believing in a divine creation by breathing on a heap of dirt does not.
 
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When I was a believer, I went through an extended period of cognitive dissonance. (See explanation here: http://tip.psychology.org/festinge.html) Part of the dissonance that I experienced was the doctrine of my church that the creation stories were literal while I saw convincing evidence that they were mythological.

As an atheist, I've rejected the notion of a literal creation and I have no belief in God. To me, Evolution has so much evidence supporting it that I think it is correct. Dissonance resolved.

Some Christians also hold the stance that the creation stories are not literal and look to the teachings and meanings of the story. These people have been able to resolve the conflict by maintaing their beliefs in God and also acknowleding scientific evidence. Dissoance resolved.

Literalists cannot change their beliefs about creation without risking the very foundations of their faith and so struggle mightily to disprove the Evolution. Dissonance resolved.

My two cents.
 
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