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The frog dance was really something LOL
I think that is a common mistake - so common that is almost isn't a mistake LOLI was somewhat treating lunisolar calendars as lunar calendars.
You're not a farmer are you?
The Farmer's Almanac is based off the phases of the moon. Many farmers and ranchers do things like planting, pruning, breeding and castrating animals, etc. by the phases of the moon.
Here at the Farmers’ Almanac, though, gardening by the Moon has always been our philosophy, and our editions include a calendar of the best days for sowing, planting, weeding, and other garden chores, as determined by the phase and position of the Moon. Our readers have long sworn by this method of managing their gardens and crops.
Why Do We Garden By The Moon? - Farmers' Almanac
Best Days to Castrate Farm Animals from the Farmers' Almanac
So yeah, I had to look all this up to see what you were addressing. Thanks to you, I learned something new today.If you were using Islam's calendar, you would plant your crops at random seasons of the year. That is how Ramadan works. Sometimes the month of Ramadan is in the summer and sometimes it is in the winter, because there are no adjustments made to synchronize to the seasons. This is a very weird calendar. Most cultures that people call "lunar" are actually "lunisolar", because they make adjustments to synchronize to the seasons.
Here is something I read that started me thinking about this issue. It comes from a Catholic forum. The information is hard to verify - at least for me. Maybe others have better sources available to see if this is at all credible. (EDIT: Harran was a center for moon worship. I believe it was established under the Assyrians? One of the few strictly lunar calendars was the ancient Assyrian calendar. ... It's just something I wonder about.)
Was Ramadan a Pagan
It's interesting that there was a Kingdom of Aksum that straddled the Red Sea with territory near Egypt and also in Yemen.If Ishmael has any connection with Islam, then the answer maybe in Egypt,
Ishmael mother was Egyptian, his wife his mother found for him, also Egyptian,
Pre-Islamic Arabian calendar - WikipediaOthers concur that the pre-Islamic calendar was originally a lunar calendar, but suggest that about 200 years before the Hijra it was transformed into a lunisolar calendar, which had an intercalary month added from time to time to keep the pilgrimage within the season of the year when merchandise was most abundant
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The Kinānah tribe, during the time of Muhammad, was in charge of authorizing the intercalation; that the Kinānah tribe had taken over this task from the Kindah tribe, which had been Judaized for hundreds of years previously, lends credence to the position that the process of intercalation may have been borrowed from the Jewish tradition.[16] Referring to Abū Rayḥān al-Bīrūnī (d. ca. 442 A.H./1050 C.E.), it has been posited that this intercalation was effected in order to accommodate the scheduling of seasonal trade cycles with annual pilgrimages,[17]
The prohibition of nasi' in AH 10 has been suggested as having had the purpose of wresting power from the Kinānah clan who was in control of intercalation, but there is no consensus regarding this position
Well what religion was Abraham's father? Is that what determines the "true origins" of Judaism?What culture do you think had used this strictly lunar calendar? Lunisolar calendars were common, but strictly lunar calendars were rare. I was looking at this issue, because I thought it might give clues to the true origins of Islam. Apparently the ancient Assyrians used a strictly lunar calendar. Harran was a center for moon worship and there was also a tradition of venerating meteorites similar to Islam.
It appears that the Chinese have three different ways of writing numerals. One of those is the Arabic numerals. The indigenous equivalent of the Arabic numerals is the Suzhou numerals. People often give the Arabs credit for the 10 digit number system, but it seems that the Suzhou numerals came 1000 years earlier. China should probably get the credit instead.This is a little off topic but I was watching a National Geographic program about China and I noticed their numeric system was just like ours; i.e. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10.,etc.; but as you know the language is well, their language. The point is, are they copying the English numeric system instead of having one of their own-?
Just asking-
Well what religion was Abraham's father? Is that what determines the "true origins" of Judaism?
Well what religion was Abraham's father? Is that what determines the "true origins" of Judaism?
Maybe @Robban can answer your question, but I was wondering if you could explain where the OT mentions peace enveloping the world (Isaiah?)In the Old Testament as documented in the KJV of the bible, God only talked directly to one group of people & that group were the Israelites. The following are His instructions to them
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The Lord was speaking to a select group of people & it was their duty to follow His instructions and should they follow his instructions peace would envelope the world.
Now I ask, are they following His instructions?
In your view, is it (yes) or (no)?
Maybe @Robban can answer your question, but I was wondering if you could explain where the OT mentions peace enveloping the world (Isaiah?)
Some actually suggest that Mecca was an Aksumite or Yemeni foundation, based on the presence of a town called Macoraba in Ptolemy's second century map and ascribed to Arabia Felix. This is supported by Diodorus Siculus' mention of a revered sanctuary in the area.It's interesting that there was a Kingdom of Aksum that straddled the Red Sea with territory near Egypt and also in Yemen.
Kingdom of Aksum - Wikipedia
The connection between Islam and Lunar gods is oversold. This is mostly derived from the lunar calender and the Crescent and Star symbol. The latter is merely derived from the Ottoman Empire's use of the symbol, which they derived from the use thereof by the city of Constantinople - where it has been in use as a symbol of Pontus since at least the third century BC, when the city was still Byzantium.
Pre-Islamic Arabian calendar - WikipediaThe prohibition of nasi' in AH 10 has been suggested as having had the purpose of wresting power from the Kinānah clan who was in control of intercalation, but there is no consensus regarding this position
Surah At-Tawbah [9:36-37]Indeed, the number of months with Allah is twelve [lunar] months in the register of Allah [from] the day He created the heavens and the earth; of these, four are sacred. That is the correct religion, so do not wrong yourselves during them. And fight against the disbelievers collectively as they fight against you collectively. And know that Allah is with the righteous [who fear Him].
Indeed, the postponing [of restriction within sacred months] is an increase in disbelief by which those who have disbelieved are led [further] astray. They make it lawful one year and unlawful another year to correspond to the number made unlawful by Allah and [thus] make lawful what Allah has made unlawful. Made pleasing to them is the evil of their deeds; and Allah does not guide the disbelieving people.
I think I solved the mystery of why Islam uses a strictly lunar calendar with no intercalary months. The Arabs had been using a lunisolar calendar for a couple of centuries before Islam, but the insertion of intercalary months was determined by members of a particular Arab tribe - and that tribe was a rival of the early Muslims. Apparently Muhammad prohibited the use of intercalary months and switched back to a strictly lunar calendar so that this rival tribe would lose influence. It seems that this short-term political maneuver was never undone, so the Muslims were stuck with a bizarre calendar.
Pre-Islamic Arabian calendar - Wikipedia
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