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Why does God wear clothes?

Lion King

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I wasn't suggesting any such thing. I don't believe the Father is a man, but I don't believe He is "formless". That's why I was asking. The visions show the Father in a form upon His throne with the angels on either side. How can you be certain He doesn't have a form if He shows Himself with one in vision?

The Father does have a "form".:thumbsup:

And the Father himself, who has sent me, has borne witness of me. You have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his form. John 5:37

And he said, You can not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. Exodus 33:20
 
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I wasn't suggesting any such thing. I don't believe the Father is a man, but I don't believe He is "formless". That's why I was asking. The visions show the Father in a form upon His throne with the angels on either side. How can you be certain He doesn't have a form if He shows Himself with one in vision?

Because it's no more right to view those visions as a literal seeing of God's "form" than it would be to suggest that God is a burning bush or a pillar of smoke/fire.

God can manifest Himself as ever He wills. He's God. He can give men visions and give men dreams. He can appear as a burning bush to Moses, He can show Himself as a small still whisper to Elijah, or as tongues of fire to those in the upper room. But we are always and ever talking about the Almighty. The One about Whom it is said the heavens, not even the highest heavens can contain. Who is immortal and invisible. Who is everywhere, through all things.

He is as Real here and now as He is in the highest heavens.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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There are figures of speech in Scripture....


Except for Mormons, Christians and Jews do not believe that God has a physical body and ergo either wears clothes or goes naked.
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Nobody ever said God had a physical body. God does have a body, but not a physical one, and I fully believe we will all see the Father together with the Son after the resurrection of the dead, just as the angels do now.:thumbsup:
 
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Whose face do the angels see in heaven?
There is a face of the Serpent and face of God in Revelation.
I assume the ones on the land in Reve 6:16 see the same face as the angels in heaven do....YAHWEH :angel:

Revelation 12:14 And were given the woman two wings of the great eagle, that she may be flying into the wilderness into the place of her, the-where she is being nurtured there time and times and half-time from Face of the Serpent.
[Daniel 7:25/12:7]

Reve 6:16 And they are saying to the mountains and to the rocks "be falling upon us! and hide us! from Face of the One sitting upon the Throne and from the wrath of the Lamb
[Hosea 10:8/Luke 23:30/Reve 20:11?]

http://www.christianforums.com/t7435912/
Face of One sitting upon the throne Reve 6/20


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There is a face of the Serpent and face of God in Revelation.
I assume the ones on the land in Reve 6:16 see the same face as the angels in heaven do....YAHWEH :angel:

Revelation 12:14 And were given the woman two wings of the great eagle, that she may be flying into the wilderness into the place of her, the-where she is being nurtured there time and times and half-time from Face of the Serpent.
[Daniel 7:25/12:7]

Reve 6:16 And they are saying to the mountains and to the rocks "be falling upon us! and hide us! from Face of the One sitting upon the Throne and from the wrath of the Lamb
[Hosea 10:8/Luke 23:30/Reve 20:11?]

http://www.christianforums.com/t7435912/
Face of One sitting upon the throne Reve 6/20


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Exodus 33:11
And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.

We are told by God that no man can look upon his face and live, and also that no man has ever seen the face of the Lord. So the meaning has to be symbolic.
 
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The concept of nudity doesn't apply to God the Father because He is not flesh. God the Son was flesh, and because of that he wore clothing. The dichotomy of naked/clothed does not apply to God the Father. There is no sin in Him, and since He transcends time and space He does not conform to our idea of "naked." He does not conform to any of our ideas!

What about non-fallen angels? They are depicted wearing clothes - yet they are not of "flesh" nor are they sinful.
 
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Because it's no more right to view those visions as a literal seeing of God's "form" than it would be to suggest that God is a burning bush or a pillar of smoke/fire.

God can manifest Himself as ever He wills. He's God. He can give men visions and give men dreams. He can appear as a burning bush to Moses, He can show Himself as a small still whisper to Elijah, or as tongues of fire to those in the upper room. But we are always and ever talking about the Almighty. The One about Whom it is said the heavens, not even the highest heavens can contain. Who is immortal and invisible. Who is everywhere, through all things.

He is as Real here and now as He is in the highest heavens.

-CryptoLutheran

How God manifests Himself doesn't take away from Him having a literal form. Did not Moses see His form on Mt Sinai? Did not Christ, as Lion King pointed out, state that no one has seen His form? Does not scripture say that we shall see God? How can we see Him if there's nothing to see?
 
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How God manifests Himself doesn't take away from Him having a literal form. Did not Moses see His form on Mt Sinai? Did not Christ, as Lion King pointed out, state that no one has seen His form? Does not scripture say that we shall see God? How can we see Him if there's nothing to see?

God manifested Himself before Moses. If Moses saw God, then Jesus lied.

I believe that we'll perceive God, but I don't believe that God is, by His own eternal and divine nature, a thing with shape and form. God is limitless, infinite, omnipresent.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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God manifested Himself before Moses. If Moses saw God, then Jesus lied.

I believe that we'll perceive God, but I don't believe that God is, by His own eternal and divine nature, a thing with shape and form. God is limitless, infinite, omnipresent.

-CryptoLutheran

OK. Well I believe the opposite. I also believe that Jesus was the One who passed before Moses, so I should apologize since, from my stand point, that would be an incorrect example.
 
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God manifested Himself before Moses. If Moses saw God, then Jesus lied.

I believe that we'll perceive God, but I don't believe that God is, by His own eternal and divine nature, a thing with shape and form. God is limitless, infinite, omnipresent.

-CryptoLutheran
Thank you. I thought I was the only one to make such a statement here on CF.
 
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OK. Well I believe the opposite. I also believe that Jesus was the One who passed before Moses, so I should apologize since, from my stand point, that would be an incorrect example.

Jesus was the one who passed through Moses? How do you know this? The Scriptures simply say it was the LORD, now how did you make the distinction that it was the Son, and not the Father?
 
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