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why does god want to kill us all?
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The Left Behind Series is a fictional series "based" on the real thing.
Don't even try to compare it to the Da Vinci Code.
Don't even try to compare it to the Da Vinci Code.
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Goldfishgal
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God doesn't want to kill us, but the punishment for sin(thank you Adam..) is death. But like John 3:16 says, if we believe in Him, we will have eternal life(heaven). Its not fear, but more of a respectful fear.
We know what he can do and respect and honor Him for that. Thats the meaning of 'fear' in this case. Respect.
And Christianity, (I would like to think of it more as a relationship with God than a 'religion') is one of the few that isn't scary. You may think its scary but think about some cults that are sitting around chanting in a dark creepy cave...or the wiccas who want us all to rot in Hell....now THATS scary..
We know what he can do and respect and honor Him for that. Thats the meaning of 'fear' in this case. Respect.
And Christianity, (I would like to think of it more as a relationship with God than a 'religion') is one of the few that isn't scary. You may think its scary but think about some cults that are sitting around chanting in a dark creepy cave...or the wiccas who want us all to rot in Hell....now THATS scary..
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On the contrary, Christianity is a religion of light and hope!gungfu said:....
christianity is very dark and scary. as are almost all religions.
control by fear...
God did not create humans, then create a Hell and Heaven and tell them that if they don't follow him they will burn in Hell. Some people have this view of Christianity and it indeed is a dark one.
How it actually happened is God created man and created the garden of Eden as the perfect paradise for man. However, God also gave man a free will where he could choose to follow God or reject him. Because of the following fall of man and sin, no man can inherit Heaven. So, because God loved man He sent Jesus to pay our way into Heaven.
There are many instances where God could have said "Enough!" and just wiped everybody out. But because He loves us He is patient with us.
God did not create Hell as a punishment for people who don't follow Him. On the contrary "Hell" is just a place of absense from God so if you don't accept God you can live eternity seperated from Him just as you chose on Earth. Think about it--God is all good and the origin of good, so no God would mean no good, which also means that Hell is the absense or even opposite of good--like light is from darkness.
God created the lake of fire to punish the Devil and his followers but gives man as he wishes: an eternity with or forever seperated from God.
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gungfu said:....
christianity is very dark and scary. as are almost all religions.
control by fear...
by fear? oh no! controlled by hope! (if you must say controlled).
Christianity teaches us of a Savior who loved us so much He died for us! Yes, there are rules we must follow, but their are laws we must follow too in order to live a safe and happy life. we can be saved! christianity is full of light and hope!!!!!
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Hi gungful
Glad you are open and questioning. My answer may be longer than you are looking for, but I'm trying to give you the rationale behind my opinions.
First, Christian beliefs are based on the Bible. To see why we believe the Bible to be without error (which some might see as elitism), Christian Apologetics (not apologies, but things such as cosmology) or Evidences (external to the Bible) give proofs. Please pm me if you wish a list of pamphlets or books. As to Christian theology, good books are: by Lewis - Decide for Yourself, a Theological Workbook for People Tired of Being Told What to Believe; by Lindsey - The Liberation of Planet Earth (mainly salvation). Those are reasons why we believe Jesus when He said in John 14:6: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
As far as fear, the only ones attending church that I see that in are people who don't understand the character of God, who are legalists following some set of external rules, or those who believe they can lose their salvation (which they can't - see Romans 6:23 with Romans 11:29 and John 12:28-29). In my case, I did trust in Jesus as my sinbearer to get me to Heaven without any good works of my own - out of fear - it was because I became demon oppressed as an atheist, and I was rightly terrified of hell. Still, I am in the vast minority. In nearly all people I know, they came to Christianity out of intellectually examining the evidences, or out of love for God, or a simple desire for Heaven. Not from fear. If most people were handed a check for a million dollars with no strings attached, they would cash the check - but not out of fear.
Concerning sin, God says that everyone is a sinner. "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." (Romans 3:23) That's why He sent Jesus to make the payment for all sins on the cross. We do not have to conform (do good works, promise to be good, etc.) in order to receive eternal life. We only need to make a decision to rely on Jesus to save us. To accept God's free gift. (Romans 6:23) (Please excuse me if I am misunderstanding your use of "conform".)
In case you are interested in specifics of my own journey which started with a fear of hell but has now come to a passionate love for God based on who He is, please see my website, click on "personal testimony" and look for relevant paragraph headings, or click on "A Passion for God" for verses.
God bless you, friend. Please pm me if you have more questions.
Aloha in Jesus
Glad you are open and questioning. My answer may be longer than you are looking for, but I'm trying to give you the rationale behind my opinions.
First, Christian beliefs are based on the Bible. To see why we believe the Bible to be without error (which some might see as elitism), Christian Apologetics (not apologies, but things such as cosmology) or Evidences (external to the Bible) give proofs. Please pm me if you wish a list of pamphlets or books. As to Christian theology, good books are: by Lewis - Decide for Yourself, a Theological Workbook for People Tired of Being Told What to Believe; by Lindsey - The Liberation of Planet Earth (mainly salvation). Those are reasons why we believe Jesus when He said in John 14:6: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." As far as fear, the only ones attending church that I see that in are people who don't understand the character of God, who are legalists following some set of external rules, or those who believe they can lose their salvation (which they can't - see Romans 6:23 with Romans 11:29 and John 12:28-29). In my case, I did trust in Jesus as my sinbearer to get me to Heaven without any good works of my own - out of fear - it was because I became demon oppressed as an atheist, and I was rightly terrified of hell. Still, I am in the vast minority. In nearly all people I know, they came to Christianity out of intellectually examining the evidences, or out of love for God, or a simple desire for Heaven. Not from fear. If most people were handed a check for a million dollars with no strings attached, they would cash the check - but not out of fear. Concerning sin, God says that everyone is a sinner. "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." (Romans 3:23) That's why He sent Jesus to make the payment for all sins on the cross. We do not have to conform (do good works, promise to be good, etc.) in order to receive eternal life. We only need to make a decision to rely on Jesus to save us. To accept God's free gift. (Romans 6:23) (Please excuse me if I am misunderstanding your use of "conform".)In case you are interested in specifics of my own journey which started with a fear of hell but has now come to a passionate love for God based on who He is, please see my website, click on "personal testimony" and look for relevant paragraph headings, or click on "A Passion for God" for verses.
God bless you, friend. Please pm me if you have more questions.
Aloha in Jesus
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Bornagain15
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gungfu said:....
christianity is very dark and scary. as are almost all religions.
control by fear...
You can ask any Christian why they believe in God. I will guarantee you that very few, if any, will say they are controlled by fear.
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Faith In God
A little FIG is all we need...
God doesn't want to kill us all. Take it this way:
A father, an FBI agent, has a son. His son was guilty of a felony (double homicide). The father is the only one who knows the son's guilt. What does he do? Does he say, "I can't turn in my son! I don't want to!" Of course. But should he? In fact, he did (this is a true story). He had the moral backbone to say, "I don't want to, but the law is the law."
God doesn't want any to perish; that is why He sent His Son! Repent! Otherwise God will have to punish you! If fallen, sinful man has the backbone to recognize that the law is the law, how much more God?
A father, an FBI agent, has a son. His son was guilty of a felony (double homicide). The father is the only one who knows the son's guilt. What does he do? Does he say, "I can't turn in my son! I don't want to!" Of course. But should he? In fact, he did (this is a true story). He had the moral backbone to say, "I don't want to, but the law is the law."
God doesn't want any to perish; that is why He sent His Son! Repent! Otherwise God will have to punish you! If fallen, sinful man has the backbone to recognize that the law is the law, how much more God?
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