Why does God Resurect the Wicked?

djconklin · Aug 10, 2007

God will remove all doubts, the redeemed will not only trust THEY WILL KNOW.

Great point! Maybe that's one of the keys to knowing who are the sheep and who are the goats? The sheep know that they can trust the Shepherd and His word, while the goats go off their own way to destruction.

RC_NewProtestants · Aug 10, 2007

djconklin said:
"at that time"? As compared to now when we supposedly know so much better? Is that really the way God works--He who never changes? Are we really to believe that God inspired Paul to write what would be an antiquated idea and pass it off as being from God?

Yes in practically all ways we know much more than at that time. And yes even with inspiration there are antiquated ideas. We don't execute Sabbath breakers or adulterers and when we go to war we don't kill every male and save the sexual virgins for our selves. Yet those are all parts of the inspired writings contained in the Bible.

By the way Paul never passed on the text we were talking about as being from God that comes from a rather unrealistic view people have put on the Bible. You are in that verse taking the question and assuming a doctrine from it. Inspiration can be found in merely the recording of what someone thought, it does not make it what God thought. Inspiration can be found in the poetry or history of a story, it does not make those stories always true or truth about God. Inspiration is found in the value that can be obtained from the written word it does not mean the written word is the thoughts of God relayed through a human pen.

So none of this is yadayada, it is actually how we have to address the issues in the Bible and come to a reasoned understanding. Adventists should have learned this by now. As for years we have went against the literal interpretation of eternal torment in hell by applying a reasoned approach yet in so many other areas we read the Bible just like the average Christian fundamentalist who relies upon wooden literal interpretations and rarely questions their traditions.

reddogs · Aug 14, 2007

Dedication said:
Trust we must -- trust and faith in God, I fully agree with emphases on trust. Yet, trust doesn't remove all doubts. Trust believes in spite of doubts.

God will remove all doubts, the redeemed will not only trust THEY WILL KNOW.

As to your question of doubt as to "are the records accurate"? Yes, even that doubt would be forever removed when the wicked are ressurrected for their characters will be allowed to fully reveal themselves in the final drama.

One thing more, I don't believe that when the redeemed are changed in a twinkling of an eye, that their characters and focus in life are changed, they are still the same person they were. Those who refuse to have their characters transformed and become "new creatures in Christ" by God's grace in this life can not expect to have their characters transformed in that "twinkling of an eye" at the resurrection. Yes, the human corruptable flesh will put on incorruptable glorious bodies, we won't have these ailing earthly bodies any more, we will have glorious incorruptable ones as Cor. 15 says. But the rational mind will still be very much part of the eternal existance -- God does not turn people into robots.

Dedicate, you speak well, I enjoy all your posts as they have strong truth... Welcome to our little forum, we are glad to have you here in our discussions...

Your Brother in Christ
Red

reddogs · Aug 22, 2007

Telaquapacky said:
Are we asking does the Bible say the wicked will be resurrected, or are we asking whether or not we think it's a good idea?

Like the second resurrection will show the wicked how wrong they were and they'll say, "Oh, I see! Okay, go ahead and throw me into the lake of fire- I deserve it, praise God!"

I could see myself after a thousand years of reading about the rebellion of a certain lost person I knew in life, and after it all, still thinking to myself, "But this person wasn't really any worse than I was. Why aren't they saved?" That could hinder my sense of peace in eternity. But if I looked down from the jeweled walls and saw that person coming with the mob, following Satan, with a face seething with hatred, coming to attack us, that might ease my mind about their final end. It might take a scene like that to convince me.

I think the wicked are ressurected so that all may see that God is just, even if they are outsided the jeweled walls......

RC_NewProtestants · Aug 22, 2007

As to your question of doubt as to "are the records accurate"? Yes, even that doubt would be forever removed when the wicked are ressurrected for their characters will be allowed to fully reveal themselves in the final drama.

Actually it would not reveal much as people in a mob can be carried along regardless of whether they want to or not. So if there was doubt before there would be just as much doubt afterward toward certain individuals who were among the millions or billions who may act in more violent ways. Of course that is assuming the post millennial view over the amillennial view and there are some good arguments for amillenial views.

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