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Says the main who denies erecting strawmen. I'll ognore you any day, baby!
What do you mean by harder things? I've been asking you about the killing of children from the very beginning and several pages later you are still stalling. What's the hold-up?
That being said, comparing D-Day to the holocaust is simply absurd. One was the systematic murder of innocent people based on race, or other similar characteristics.
I find it funny that you, an ethical SUBJECTIVIST keep talking about the killing of children as if it is something that is wrong even if some think it is right.
This, I simply cannot stop smiling at.
If you have read my posts, you would know that I am not settled on the topic.
Well good, here I thought I had missed something. So you're not a moral subjectivist. Why do you have a fascination with killing children?
Well I have no idea what the question is nor why you would ask it, but I do think that due to the difficulty of the subject matter it would be courteous to all discuss the same point rather than trying to have all arguments at once.
If you were there when your God commanded the killing of the Amalekites, what would you do?
What if God never commanded it?
Further, what if there never were any Amelekites?
Why can't you address what Scripture tries to address, w/o some twisted need to turn it into something its not?
And what about Naomi?
So you are denying that the events happened as recorded in the Bible?
You can't just address a tiny little factoid like this and make any sense out of it. You have to discover the purpose of Scripture itself, and allow it to say what it says, rather than attempting to impose our own ideas upon it. Joshua - 2 Chronicles covers a heritage of Israel, passed down as oral history, not written down until perhaps as late as the Babylonian exile many hundreds of years later.
You and I cannot know if Amalekites ever existed or not, but we sure can know what they represent in the story. What difference does it make to our lives today if they existed or not? Its not the purpose of Scripture. Stories like this are INTENTIONALLY shocking, and horrible. So if you guys want to hang out and go "how shocking and horrible," that's a valid use of passages like this. If you want to do anything with it more than that, like maybe understand it or assign meaning to it, you'll have to use it in the way intended, which means to listen to those who have spent years and decades living with the harsh reality of what it says, and pondering it.
So far what we have established in this thread about this all came about with Loudmouth:
God isn't some ignore reality and just do whatever dude, He's just and constrained to the reality He created, which is complex;
Nobody was killed due to their race so genocide isn't even an applicable concept; what's happening in all these gory stories is judgment according to works;
Even though genocide is an anachronism most of these slaughtered groups were warned ahead of time, giving the pacifists among them time to flee. This leaves only the warlike left in harm's way,
which is a specific part of God's Judgment, which while controversial can be seen as an extension of the Judgment of the flood. Its key to target those that are warlike, and understanding these details definitely helps tie the whole of Scripture together.
So, in what way is genocide and child rape not permissible, if those that commit such acts can still enter this theoretical heaven?
And here I thought you might know a lot about Christianity....
Now there is a tough question!
I am sure you can't.Not sure I can address that one without just making it even more confusing than it already is.
Nice dodge! Who didn't see that one coming?Can I ask if anyone here would ever do either one, and if not that the question isn't applicable?
What exactly would be the purpose of a story about genocide? What moral or spiritual lesson can one acquire from a story about a genocidal God?
When you are done with the dodge-and-weave, amusing as it is
And what about serial killers, such as Jeffrey Dahmer?
If you were interested in honest discussion, why would you be ignoring my address of the anachronism that is "genocide," and still using that term?
Because that is the correct term.
In what way do you find anachronism to be "correct?" Clearly no matter what anyone says on the subject of your question you aren't going to listen anyway, so why play the charade?
What exactly would be the purpose of a story about judgment? What moral or spiritual lesson can one acquire from a story about a God of judgment?
Judgment isn't always about race.
The children and infants among them were warlike?
Dodge-and-weave.How 'bout you ask something applicable? Because there's simply no application for what you're asking here. All sorts of good people could devote all sorts of time to it, and come up with all sorts of responses. After all that it wouldn't mean a hill of beans because there's no application for it.
Not by any god(s), as the story goes.What about him? I think his evil was stopped, don't you?
It is your opinion I am asking for. Did his actions as a serial killer preclude him from entering this theoretical heaven?If I were to formulate an opinion as to his Salvation, what difference would that make?
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