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People make God "their" God. Roman Catholics did the same thing, distorted the bible to their viewpoint.
Problem is, if you actually read the bible, it really asks us to do a lot of things we don't want to do.
Problem is, when a person reads the bible, their own brain interprets it and that brings into play, the interpretation that suits one's needs.
Problem is, when a person reads the bible, their own brain interprets it and that brings into play, the interpretation that suits one's needs.
I concede the obvious train wreck of the common Christian explanation.
There are different explanations and different interpretations around the same events that could lead one to a more plausible understanding of what happened, of the truth.
* The Sin of Adam and Eve as original and inheritable, and even that they were the first humans, was speculation in contradiction to evidence that the earth was already populated as Cain if fearful of tribes outside the garden in the Land of Nod.....where he found a wife.
* Judaism rejected the original gospel of Jesus taught 3+ years before the cross, so it was adopted and simultaneously, unintentionally altered in the teachings of Paul to the Greco-Roman world.
* The Pagan world was more receptive to a remixed interpretation of the meaning of the cross because they already had an atonement, human sacrifice theology. Christianity was born, but it's a compromise to the original to make it more appealing to the Pagan world.
Well, we aren't supposed to do that. I'm guilty of it too, I can be extremely judgmental against people who aren't radical Christians. Then in the process, I'm not being humble and allowing God to direct me in all things.
We are human, we inject our own views into the bible because it makes us feel better about ourselves. I think the essence of the forums brings out the bad side to many of the Christians here. We are constantly looking to debate, argue, etc, we want to be legalistic. We become like the people who crucified Jesus.
I'm the worst offender, sometimes because my views are more radical, disciplined, I want to tell others they are wrong. That wouldn't be a problem at all if I was doing it for God, but I'm doing it for me, MY ego.
The bible tells us how to conduct ourselves, the reason you have so many different views is because we talk too much and do very little action. Let's be honest, Christians shouldn't be on these forums anyway, we should be hitting the pavement talking about God.
And every method is filtered through a human mind.
Well, we aren't supposed to do that. I'm guilty of it too, I can be extremely judgmental against people who aren't radical Christians. Then in the process, I'm not being humble and allowing God to direct me in all things.
We are human, we inject our own views into the bible because it makes us feel better about ourselves. I think the essence of the forums brings out the bad side to many of the Christians here. We are constantly looking to debate, argue, etc, we want to be legalistic. We become like the people who crucified Jesus.
I'm the worst offender, sometimes because my views are more radical, disciplined, I want to tell others they are wrong. That wouldn't be a problem at all if I was doing it for God, but I'm doing it for me, MY ego.
The bible tells us how to conduct ourselves, the reason you have so many different views is because we talk too much and do very little action. Let's be honest, Christians shouldn't be on these forums anyway, we should be hitting the pavement talking about God.
so is the only real way to "interpret" the bible is to shut off the mind?
Hi Chris,
Isn't "being on the Forums" one kind of "hitting the pavement"?
I could try to explain it to you, but you have a different understanding than I do.
And you know what, man? That's fine. Christians debating with atheists is also talked about in the bible.
In some cases, but debating atheists who view us as fools?
In some cases, but debating atheists who view us as fools?
True, but that's not my point. My point is that one should not expect Christians, being human, to necessarily arrive at the same conclusions without doing cognitive work and experiencing cognitive friction with other minds. Unless one holds some kind of 'Charismatic' presuppositions...which I don't.
I have heard much worse than fools being launched towards atheists from some Christians on this board.
I doubt you need to explain it to me. I was a Christian for decades.
Do Christians not view atheists as fools?
we ARE the great unwashed that their pastor warned them about.
No, I view no man as a fool.
I sincerely doubt that, but if accurate, it's very nice.
I live by scripture or at least try to.
Matthew 5:22
But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.
That has some serious implications to me.
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