B
Bondman
Guest
Hi DD! I can answer your queries if you'd like. With Silent Enigma's permission I'll do my best to show how God has revealed Himself and that the basics are really quite simple, logical and easy to understand.That's accurate at all...
You really think I'm afraid of the Bible being true? If that were the case, I'd just be a Christian. I'd go to Chruch every week and pray to Jesus because I'd be afraid of going to hell if the Bible were true. Being afraid of the message of the Bible is the least of my motivations for being agnostic.
If anything, I desparately wish that the Bible were true, there were conclusive proof of it, and then I could believe in it whole heartedly.
I can't think of anything better than take wake up every day knowing there's a loving God who has my best interest in mind, and all I have to do to get to eternal paradise is follow some simple rules...you honestly think I prefer to wake up every day wondering what the point is and thinking pedophiles and Mother Theresa will wind up in the same spot after death?!
No matter how bad I want to believe that, I'm not willing to delude myself...and regarding the message, yes, I have a problem with believing 2000 year old stories written by simple, superstitious men who liked to tell, and easily believed, outrageous stories on a regular basis.
And if you're seriously going to try to argue the method of communication itself isn't flawed, then just look at how many different denominations there are trying to interpret the same book. You'd think an omnipotent God could figure out a way to state a message without needing teams of theologians to figure out what it means.
There's a pile of good evidence regarding the Bible and God. But not 'proof', because besides evidence, for very good reason God ensured that faith is essential along with the evidence - or to act upon the evidence, if you will.
A strong atheist from another forum pm'd me with this straight question "Why should I believe you when you say you have the truth?"
I responded: "Because I speak the words of the One Who [when here on earth 2,000 years ago] publicly stated to the world, "I AM THE TRUTH!"
His reply was: "You believe that God is the truth because the bible says so.
"You believe that the bible is true because you believe it was inspired by God, and because God is the truth.
"You believe that God is the truth because the bible says so.
"You believe that the bible is true because you believe it was inspired by God, and because God is the truth.
"You believe that God is the truth because the bible says so.
"And on and on and on...it's circular, without any foundation except faith.
"Am I right?
I responded: "Well no! I DON'T live by 'circular arguments', man! And I do NOT live solely by faith - or anything like it! My life is solidly based on REAL THINGS.
"THIS IS TOTALLY RELEVANT:
"I've given you good, solid and convincing EVIDENCE about the Bible from OUTSIDE of the Bible. Can't be ignored, can't be 'wished' away, is never going to GO away!!! Wrote it to clearly show you that the One Who publicly stated to the world, "I AM THE TRUTH!" really lived, really did say that, really did raise the dead, heal the sick, walk on water, know what people were thinking, stilled a storm, AND rose from the dead after being crucified. I've found Him, I know Him and relate to Him daily.
"JESUS IS THE TRUTH!!!"
The evidence I've given him on which he can choose to base his life if he wishes, or not, is similar to the next post of mine here, labelled POST 2.
Upvote
0