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Surprisingly, I have had more than few religionists run off on that errand.A common New Atheist, rookie errand.
And remains unexplained.There is nothing to explain, which has not already been explained.
No, it has not.Are you reliving the past. We've covered this already.
Slander is a "a false and malicious spoken statement".If slander bordering on blasphemy is brushed away by your in-expertise, then I suggest you get a proper lawyer.
Actually, if you are not going to run that errand of yours, and provide a proper, robust, testable, falsifiable definition of whatever we are supposed to be discussing, then you are without a reference for which to base your accusations of false or inaccurate statements. Your opinion is insufficient.If that is how you appease your conscience, then so be it.
Are you leaving again?Goodbye.
I do not accept your false dichotomy.I have not called it libel, only a gentle warning because I am more concerned with the inaccuracies than I am with the slander bordering on blasphemy.
As you note, my simple question about the difference between Wonder Woman and the God of the Bible -- is not as serious as the one which I am considering at the moment. Namely the matter of heresy (whether before as a Christian) which has turned a heart to repeatedly take cheap shots at the God of the Bible. Either one is here with respect, to engage in discussion, argument and debate -- or one is here to play court Jester.
Let me know when you've changed AV's mind on this.I know the Joker laughs at all of us, but it's just silly to mock another persons beliefs. I know Christians (YEC) mock and deride Scientists (not all are) here for having great confidence about a scientific theory, and that is BAD, BAD, BAD but I don't see why we (I am not yet a proper scientists -- only a baby biologist in training) should give back the same -- and not turn the other cheek, by showing that we know what we are talking about. Hmm?
I have not seen anyone make a good case for God wanting us to fight wars today.From dad at the last thread:
"Jesus did not do that. Period"
So what. Christians do what Jesus did not do all of the time. You can't disown people just because they did something that you do not like. They are still part of your group, like it or not.
I have not seen anyone make a good case for God wanting us to fight wars today.
Surprisingly, I have had more than few religionists run off on that errand.
And remains unexplained.
No, it has not.
Slander is a "a false and malicious spoken statement".
Get thee to a dictionary.
Actually, if you are not going to run that errand of yours, and provide a proper, robust, testable, falsifiable definition of whatever we are supposed to be discussing, then you are without a reference for which to base your accusations of false or inaccurate statements. Your opinion is insufficient.
Are you leaving again?
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Every time I see the old invisible-yet-plainly-seen chestnut rolled out, as if it is a seasoned, reasonable argument, I laugh out loud. What may have been poetic or profound in its time is reduced to empty rhetoric in a physical sciences subforum, and should be called out as such.
Let me know when you've changed AV's mind on this.
No. "WE" are not. Speak for yourself.Oh come on, we are dispatching thousands of radical Muslims to meet Ala, and have a lot more to go.
No. "WE" are not. Speak for yourself.
The crusades sanctioned by a pope did a lot of that. Have we learned anything? The weapons that win hearts and minds are what are needed. Not endless violence and jungle laws of the devoid.
That being said, if God allows or uses some ungodly nation, or even the AntiChrist..in a police action to destroy those who kill Christians...I say go man go.
I think Israel today should learn this. If they looked to God to save and defend them..He would! he would bow the very heavens and make their enemies lick the dust of their feet in a New York minute. But when they try to use little nukes or whatever to do it themselves...they will fail. There is NO other way but to look to God.
The sacred texts of the tribe have been/and continue to be employed as a mandate for bloodshed. Add to that the frightening fact that we are a race of beings, seem to be inclined to blood lust.
The sacred texts may be employed as a mandate for bloodshed, but bloodshed seems to occur without them too....
True that.
But the sacred texts are a powerful tool for demonization/dehumanizing the enemy. They're basically a "get out of jail free" card for our morality/immorality, not a good thing considering man's basic nature.
Yet when we look at the big picture of religion, much like what Karen Armstrong did in her wee book "12 Steps to Compassion" we see that the basic truth of what the gods want from us, is not sacrifice but simple obedience to the higher function of our evolved sense of what makes for a more loving world.
No. "WE" are not. Speak for yourself.
I just knew someone would take me seriously.
The debates on evolution vs creation serves no useful purpose. Many people are going to hold to their particular beliefs no matter what the is proven to be true. As a Christian I don't need to hold to young earth creation beliefs because it has no effect on my relationship with God. Science can not prove evolution, what they can prove is that mankind has been around for a very long time.
Maybe the focus should be on how we live our lives and how we deal with our fellow man.
Yet when we look at the big picture of religion, much like what Karen Armstrong did in her wee book "12 Steps to Compassion" we see that the basic truth of what the gods want from us, is not sacrifice but simple obedience to the higher function of our evolved sense of what makes for a more loving world.
Yet when we look at the big picture of religion, much like what Karen Armstrong did in her wee book "12 Steps to Compassion" we see that the basic truth of what the gods want from us, is not sacrifice but simple obedience to the higher function of our evolved sense of what makes for a more loving world.
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