Why do you believe in the Christian god?

andreha · Mar 25, 2009

O yeah, the guy that got tossed around and vomitted - almost forgot about that. I heard it from one of my Christian friends who teach at church.

GreenMunchkin · Mar 26, 2009

MinorityofOne said:
Whoops, yeah. I skipped explaining why I included those two questions (one of them being posed by C.S. Lewis, originally), but I included them because yes, God could do both of those things if He created the rules. Kinda like when you're a kid and you made up games with rules, but you might change them when it suited you.

So they're a not a huge philosophical sticking point for you? That's awesome, if not

Did we invent Allah? People have personal experiences with him, too.
(do a google search to find some)

Allah is God... Islam is an Abrahamic faith, and Allah is their name for God. It's just not a name we would ever use. There's an organisation called Muslims for Jesus, and they still call God Allah, just as Jews for Jesus call Him Jehovah. But. The dividing line is Christ. Islam has no relationship with Christ, and that's what saves. I don't doubt there are cases where a Muslim has experienced God. But unless they're experiencing Christ, they aren't abiding in God, and that's the difference.

Sure, sort-of.

Premise: God is omnipotent. (an already impossible-to-grasp idea)

Conclusion: God can do anything he wants, including sending himself to hell while he simultaneously sits in heaven, then bringing himself up to heaven from hell to sit beside himself, then resurrecting himself from the dead on Earth, even when he wasn't really dead in the first place, he was in heaven the whole time...

You know what, you're right. I can't do it.

And yet He appeared to hundreds - possibly thousands - of people subsequent to His resurrection. It happened, whether we can explain it or not. And God is God - omnipotent and omniscient - whether we can explain Him or not.

1: Most of the Christians I know are happy to mock atheists. I haven't sought out many Christian sites (outside of this one), so I don't know what they focus on.

They shouldn't be. Christians are Christian by the grace of God. To believe themselves superior to atheists is unconscionable. Please know that those who would denigrate and mock people who don't know Jesus, also don't know Jesus; or, at least, they don't know His teachings.

3: It's difficult for me to answer the last question you propose. For example, some people say that they feel God in praise and worship. I feel the same during praise and worship as I do during secular concerts - I get caught up in the music and feel great, but I don't know that it has anything to do with God.

I've heard that before, actually... it sort of confuses me. I've only been a Christian for 3 years, so I still remember how it was before. I remember going to gigs and feeling the adrenaline flowing and I don't understand how it's comparable to feeling the presence of the Holy Spirit during worship. They're honestly very different feelings. Both involving joy and excitement, sure, but both oranges and cider vinegar contain acid and they're easy to differentiate, too.

I prayed for God to reveal himself to me over this past week. Mere hours after I attempted to speak with him, my Christian friend comes over to my house to watch a movie and - guess what - he brings Religulous! XD Not sure if that was a sign from God or not, but I found it funny at the time.

Actually, that's really interesting. I know that one of the things that finally pushed me over the fence into Christianity was the degree of hate I saw aimed at it. It made no sense to me that something with such beautiful teachings could be so despised by people who knew so little about it. The God Delusion and Zeitgeist and Religulous bolstered my faith perhaps more than most apologetics books have. Because the baseless hate and lack of integrity involved in them all (Zeitgeist, for example, has been debunked as profoundly unscholarly; God Delusion is emotive rhetoric, and Religulous is mockery, polemics and woeful editing) convince me that Christianity is the right path. Atheism I understand, but anti-Christianity is something else entirely, and being exposed to the most embarrassing example of the anti-Christian apologia just when you're asking these questions is sort of amazing, really.

I think God was in it

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