Then let's see some scientific evidence of these truths. If you can show me this, then I'm with you guys, but if all you have is a feeling, or a personal experience, then sorry, that is just not enough to claim such truths. Prove to me that jesus is a god, and not a fictional character. Or is it my word against yours? In that case, these beliefs don't hold much water compared to science. Why am I so crazy about science and evidence? Because it's the best system of finding truths that we have. You don't rely on faith when you judge a criminal, do you? I want to see these evidence that convice you guys that there is a god. Because so far, I have seen nothing more than wordplays, wishful thinking and pseudo science from the discovery institute. There has to be something else to it, I refuse to believe that humans are so stupid that they could actually believe in the flying spaghetti monster. But then again, there is scientology rofl!