Why do YECists have such a low opinion of God?

AV1611VET said:

Since the questions are too hard for you guys --- I'll be a nice guy and withdraw them.

I can't type and laugh at the same time.

IOW, who's laughing now?

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Well, I'm glad we're both getting the joke again -- I always feel a little guilty when you start taking yourself too seriously.

AV1611VET said:

Since the questions are too hard for you guys --- I'll be a nice guy and withdraw them.

I can't type and laugh at the same time.

IOW, who's laughing now?

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How convenient for you! Maybe next time you can figure out a better way for God to have created Adam and the Earth "mature" without being deceptive.
Bye-Bye!

Nathan Poe said:

Except no matter how a time traveller "sees" Adam, he was, in fact, new.

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Now you gotten it. GOD created a mature established universe in 6 days. Christians do not care how old it looks to you because you simply are judging from waht YOU SEE and ignore the CREATOR's REVELATION --- Mr. Time Traveler.

Split Rock said:

How convenient for you! Maybe next time you can figure out a better way for God to have created Adam and the Earth "mature" without being deceptive.
Bye-Bye!

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Simply becaue you ignore both the FALL and the FLOOD, no need to call GOD names.... HE told you the only way HE could ----- through DIVINE REVELATION.

LittleNipper said:

Now you gotten it. GOD created a mature established universe in 6 days.

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"Mature" because it looked like it took billions of years to do, and yet, it didn't, although it was specially made to look and act that way.

Christians do not care how old it looks to you because you simply are judging from waht YOU SEE and ignore the CREATOR's REVELATION --- Mr. Time Traveler.

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What I see is the creator's revelation -- take that interpretation of that ancient book out of the equation, and it all fits together just fine.

LittleNipper said:

Simply becaue you ignore both the FALL and the FLOOD, no need to call GOD names.... HE told you the only way HE could ----- Through DIVINE REVELATION.

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He needs to find a more efficient method of DIVINE REVELATION -- the whole "make the tribe of bronze-age nomads write a few books" approach has led to nothing but trouble.

Nathan Poe said:

He needs to find a more efficient method of DIVINE REVELATION -- the whole "make the tribe of bronze-age nomads write a few books" approach has led to nothing but trouble.

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Well, GOD spoke directly to Adam and did he listen? Are you any wiser? I might add that the LORD JESUS CHRIST came into the world in the iron-age. If there was ever a time to update the CREATION EPIC and the FLOOD story, HE choose only to embellish and not rewrite.

LittleNipper said:

Simply becaue you ignore both the FALL and the FLOOD, no need to call GOD names.... HE told you the only way HE could ----- through DIVINE REVELATION.

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You imply that god didn't make the universe.

Good, for once we are in agreement

LittleNipper said:

Now you gotten it. GOD created a mature established universe in 6 days. Christians....

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Please stop equating the absurdity of young earth creationism with Christianity. The majority of Christians including theistic evolutionists and old earth creationists understand that the earth is indeed 4.5 billion years and that the flood of Noah was not global.

F.B.

PS
Now I'll make a prophecy. We'll soon see the "No True Scotsman" fallacy again.

LittleNipper said:

Simply becaue you ignore both the FALL and the FLOOD, no need to call GOD names.... HE told you the only way HE could ----- through DIVINE REVELATION.

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See, this is impotent, not omnipotent. This is a limited god. An omnipotent god could make all of us understand, with clear cut evidence. Or just send in Jesus, he spoke to Paul why not us?

Vene said:

See, this is impotent, not omnipotent. This is a limited god. An omnipotent god could make all of us understand, with clear cut evidence. Or just send in Jesus, he spoke to Paul why not us?

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The God of the creationist is a limited, simpleton version of That Being Than Which None Greater Can Be Conceived.

It is necessary to bottle god into a simple kool-aid version because the god concept for the Creationist is predicated on a simplistic superstition from the Bronze Age or earlier. Crafted by people who knew no more about geology or biology or science than was absolutely necessary simply to live in the highlands of Caanan and eke out a living.

So, since the Creationists here, cling to the writings which essentially froze their god concept in a time of humanity's scientific childhood, we get YEC's and Creationists.

It is an interesting thing to see, considering that much of the Church throughout the intervening millenia has actually developed a much more subtle and nuanced form of the God Concept. The Creationist God is a god for children. The Church has grown up and matured, but Creationists still hide under the covers in their onesies talking about a simpler god, a tribal god, a magical man in the sky who can do whatever he wants whenever he wants "just becuz".

I have always been saddened that my country seems to be a central locale for this intellectually vacuous version of faith. I'm no longer religious, but I still find religions that try to pursue a life of the mind to be much more exciting and respectable.

The creationist god is about as simple as you can get. Yet if you try to question this simple god, the creationist will usually retreat to a stance of "You can't understand the wonder-working infathomable God!" Never realizing that if no one can understand God, then they can't understand God either.

LittleNipper said:

Well, GOD spoke directly to Adam and did he listen? Are you any wiser?

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Having eaten of the fruit, I would say so.

I might add that the LORD JESUS CHRIST came into the world in the iron-age.

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And left it with iron nails through his wrists.

If there was ever a time to update the CREATION EPIC and the FLOOD story, HE choose only to embellish and not rewrite.

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Take a good story and make it better -- Shakespeare did that a lot too.