Why do we look so much like apes?

[Reminisce]

Not sure where to put this but I'll try posting it here. This is something I've been wondering about forever. If God created the animals and us seperately and there's no evolution, why do we look so much like apes?

 

[99percentatheism]

Not sure where to put this but I'll try posting it here. This is something I've been wondering about forever. If God created the animals and us seperately and there's no evolution, why do we look so much like apes?

Design.

We all live in the same biosphere. We look a lot like squirrels and bullfrogs too.

What do you suppose we look like on this planet or air, water and ground?

 

[Reminisce]

Design.

We all live in the same biosphere. We look a lot like squirrels and bullfrogs too.

What do you suppose we look like on this planet or air, water and ground?

I'm not sure I understand any of what you are trying to say, unfortunately, save for the first sentence.

 

[LostInDarkness85]

couldnt evolution be how god did it not an alternative to creation, like isnt 1 day in heaven like 1000 years on earth, thats why when we die we immediatly see all we care and love??? couldnt evolution just be gods process of making us

 

[LostInDarkness85]

couldnt evolution be how god did it not an alternative to creation, like isnt 1 day in heaven like 1000 years on earth, thats why when we die we immediatly see all we care and love??? couldnt evolution just be gods process of making us

just so you know i new to religion and only armed with google and a bible i bought the other day which confuses me lol

 

[Reminisce]

Why are you replying to your own post?

 

[LostInDarkness85]

so you know that i dnt really know what i talking about just guessing lol, didnt know if anyone would jump in and like post straight after what i said then my new post would have just seemed random....

 

[Reminisce]

so you know that i dnt really know what i talking about just guessing lol, didnt know if anyone would jump in and like post straight after what i said then my new post would have just seemed random....

Oh ok, now I get it lol. I just saw you saying "Just so you know..." in reply to your own post and for a moment I thought "wow, this guy is actually talking to himself"

 

[miamited]

hi reminisce,

I'm not sure that I would agree that I look so much like an ape. I have practically no hair on my body. My skin is totally different. My jaw and facial features are quite a bit different. My limbs, while there are four of them, are not designed much like an ape. Apes generally walk around with legs considerably bent at the knees and their arms are gangly.

Now, do I look more like an ape than a dog? Sure, and if I were to open up a book of all the living creatures and seek to find the next closest animal in form to the human form I would probably settle on the ape, but there are considerable differences. Finally, the outside of most all creatures, I believe, were created to endure and support a particular place in the creation of God, but the biggest difference between man and apes is on the inside. Man has a heart which seeks after God. A mind that seeks after knowledge and when we consider all that man has built and accomplished we are not even close to apes.

Apes have lived upon the earth for as long as we have, and even longer if one supports evolutionary theory, yet they haven't built a single bridge, skyscraper, toilet, baby carriage, airplane, automobile, computer. So, let's look at this. Are they really so much like us if they don't think and fashion the things naturally found in the earth for their benefit? So, while I agree somewhat that the physical form of apes may be the closest animal match to the human physical form, I find that when we get inside there is apparently a much deeper difference.

There is a place in the Scriptures where God claims that He will confound the wisdom of the wise. Evolutionary theories, I believe, are just such a confoundment. The natural man, without the Spirit of God and the word of God, cannot understand how God did things. They are confounded and unable to accept the plain truth of God because of their great wisdom.

So, do apes have some similarities to humans, sure. And if we look throughout the creatures of God there are many creatures which have similar features to each other. Why in the bird category we could well nigh say that every bird is just like another, yet they do not naturally mate. A dog is much like a cat. Four legs, paws, fur covered body, some minor differences in facial features, but a tail and their reproductive organs are all in the same place. Yet, inside their attitudes and instincts are totally different.

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted

 

[Papias]

It is certainly true that out of all the thousands of animal species, apes are the most like us in practically every way. So similar, in fact, that scientists classify us AS apes. So it's not just that we are "like" apes, but that we literally ARE apes (we are in the "ape" classification).

In light of Theistic Evolution (or Evolutionary Creationism), this makes perfect sense, is expected, glorifies God, and is completely compatible with Genesis. It also explains why there is a smooth transition of transitional fossils between us and chimp-like ancestors, why over 95% of our genome is identical to chimps, and many other observations.

Denying our similarities with other apes only shows how far creationists will go in denying the real world, which is God's creation.

Papias

 

[Kirkwhisper]

Not sure where to put this but I'll try posting it here. This is something I've been wondering about forever. If God created the animals and us seperately and there's no evolution, why do we look so much like apes?

We do?

Since when?

 

[Notedstrangeperson]

Man is the animal which the Creator has seen fit to honor with such a magnificent mind and has condescended to adopt as his favorite and for which he has prepared a nobler life; indeed, sent out for its salvation his only son; but all this belongs to another forum; it behooves me like a cobbler to stick to my last, in my own workshop, and as a naturalist to consider man and his body, for I know scarcely one feature by which man can be distinguished from apes.​

- Carl Linnaeus​

Yet man does recognise himself [as an animal]. But I ask you and the whole world for a generic differentia between man and ape which conforms to the principles of natural history, I certainly know of none... If I were to call man ape or vice versa, I should bring down all the theologians on my head. But perhaps I should still do it according to the rules of science.​

- Carl Linnaeus
Letter to Johann Gmelon (dated 14th January 1747)​

I demand of you, and of the whole world, that you show me a generic character... by which to distinguish between Man and Ape. I myself most assuredly know of none.​

- Carl Linnaeus​

Linnaeus - like everyone during his time - believed that species were "fixed" and that man was specially created by God. Nevertheless, when he was criticised for placing humans and apes in the same category, he challenged anyone to prove him wrong. He died 81 years before Darwin wrote Origins of Species, so we can hardly call him an evolutionist.

 

[Assyrian]

We do?

Since when?

Scary teeth, but interesting how closely the two skulls line up.

 

[Kirkwhisper]

Man is the animal which the Creator has seen fit to honor with such a magnificent mind and has condescended to adopt as his favorite and for which he has prepared a nobler life; indeed, sent out for its salvation his only son; but all this belongs to another forum; it behooves me like a cobbler to stick to my last, in my own workshop, and as a naturalist to consider man and his body, for I know scarcely one feature by which man can be distinguished from apes.​

- Carl Linnaeus​

Yet man does recognise himself [as an animal]. But I ask you and the whole world for a generic differentia between man and ape which conforms to the principles of natural history, I certainly know of none... If I were to call man ape or vice versa, I should bring down all the theologians on my head. But perhaps I should still do it according to the rules of science.​

- Carl Linnaeus
Letter to Johann Gmelon (dated 14th January 1747)​

I demand of you, and of the whole world, that you show me a generic character... by which to distinguish between Man and Ape. I myself most assuredly know of none.​

- Carl Linnaeus​

Linnaeus - like everyone during his time - believed that species were "fixed" and that man was specially created by God. Nevertheless, when he was criticised for placing humans and apes in the same category, he challenged anyone to prove him wrong. He died 81 years before Darwin wrote Origins of Species, so we can hardly call him an evolutionist.

Carl Linneaus is not God. It is God's Word that is final.

"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

He did this:

Not this:

 

[Reminisce]

It is certainly true that out of all the thousands of animal species, apes are the most like us in practically every way. So similar, in fact, that scientists classify us AS apes. So it's not just that we are "like" apes, but that we literally ARE apes (we are in the "ape" classification).

In light of Theistic Evolution (or Evolutionary Creationism), this makes perfect sense, is expected, glorifies God, and is completely compatible with Genesis. It also explains why there is a smooth transition of transitional fossils between us and chimp-like ancestors, why over 95% of our genome is identical to chimps, and many other observations.

Denying our similarities with other apes only shows how far creationists will go in denying the real world, which is God's creation.

Papias

So you are suggesting that Christians embrace our scientifically proven ape ancestry because otherwise we are denying God's creation? Just trying to understand your point of view here...

 

[Incariol]

So you are suggesting that Christians embrace our scientifically proven ape ancestry because otherwise we are denying God's creation? Just trying to understand your point of view here...

It seems reasonable, especially considering we are apes.

 

[mmksparbud]

Repeat: Eccl 7:29 "Lo, this only have I found, that God made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions."---

Other than a couple of relatives--I do not think we look soooo very similar to aoes. They have a head, 2 arms, 2 legs--You can easily tell the difference between us, even when it's just the skeleton. It's not like the only way to tell us apart is to do DNA testing! Our teeth are nothing alike--nor are our shapes. The hair,fur is easily identifiable. Proportions are different, they are made to walk a certain way, use their arms and legs in a certain way different from us.They can not talk. Besides, I think God has a sense of humor--"if they're going to act like animals, maybe I'll let them see what they could have looked like if I had chosen not to make them after our Image!"--A silverback gorrilla is a magnificent creature. But he can't come up with E=MC2--not that they are stupid, though. They are wonderful, amazingly gentle creatures. We tend to humanize even our dogs!

 

[gluadys]

So you are suggesting that Christians embrace our scientifically proven ape ancestry because otherwise we are denying God's creation? Just trying to understand your point of view here...

Yes, that makes sense. After all if we believe in creation we ought to learn from creation.

What is the point of believing in a Creator whose created world is not the one we inhabit?

 

[mmksparbud]

Will all those who think Dolly Parton looks like the Gorrilla above, please raise your hands!!

 

[elopez]

Not sure where to put this but I'll try posting it here. This is something I've been wondering about forever. If God created the animals and us seperately and there's no evolution, why do we look so much like apes?

You should look at an infant then a infant monkey and then really start to wonder. We look like apes because we are apes.