I also know where you are at, I am not long out of a psychiatric hospital fro harming (I mean serious stuff like cutting off one of my fingers) so I am here for you tot alk to if you wnat
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I've gone through sumthing similar also, tho maybe not for the same reasons. You need to give it up to God, and let him take it from you. He can help you out all you have to do is ask!
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the best doctor , therapist , teacher , father , friend is none other than jesus christ.whenever you have such thoughts call upon the holy spirit whom god has placed in your life. rmb..jesus knew that we were not capable of living the right way when jesus left...so he sent the holy spirit to every child of god. ( the paraphrased version). The lord wants you to stop thinking ofg such things and the lord weeps whenever you attempt to do that or he sees you struggling . BUT RMB THE EVIL ONE CANNOT CONTROL YOUR MIND UNLESS YOU ALLOW IT TO. God has the ultimate victory. seek and you shall find and ask and it shall be given says the lord. pray to god now and i would pray for you too.....and believe in faith that god would bring you out of it .
god bless
god bless
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I believe sometimes that is true. But also, Jesus GAVE those therapists the knowledge to do their work. Sometimes you DO have to go other ways for help.
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I used to cut myself up when I was younger. I also almost killed myself and have some scars that are very visible.
What you need right now is for someone to be close to you. Someone who can help you with your burdens and someone who can help life make sense.
What you need right now is for someone to be close to you. Someone who can help you with your burdens and someone who can help life make sense.
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I'm not so sure.led said:
I reckon we need to be happy alone, and in our relationship with God. Dependence on another person for feeling happy just leads to upset when they let you down
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true dat. ... and -laffs- cuz she said 'reckon'emmajane said:I reckon we need to be happy alone, and in our relationship with God. Dependence on another person for feeling happy just leads to upset when they let you down
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*emma laughs too, even though it isn't really all that funny...urbanfaerie said:true dat. ... and -laffs- cuz she said 'reckon'
Yeah, I reckon it's true, I'm not totally sure yet though
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no, lol..i think accents and the way people talk in diff places are so cute. i love em. tis why me laffed
and i do think u made a valid point. speaking from experience, i did depend on someone ...i got burned in the end, and made me worse in the long run. i think we gotta learn to love ourselfs, and depend solely on ourselfs and God to get us through a tuff situation.
while its true, u can't get through life alone, its nice to have a friend to lean on. (thats why God provided us people, and other sources to communicate with.) you can't depend on that friend entirely.. you gotta get through things on your own sometimes.
and i do think u made a valid point. speaking from experience, i did depend on someone ...i got burned in the end, and made me worse in the long run. i think we gotta learn to love ourselfs, and depend solely on ourselfs and God to get us through a tuff situation.
while its true, u can't get through life alone, its nice to have a friend to lean on. (thats why God provided us people, and other sources to communicate with.) you can't depend on that friend entirely.. you gotta get through things on your own sometimes.
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Thanks alot guys. I have been alot better. I havent been thinking about it nearly as much anymore. Although today suicide poped into my brain. Not that I could or ever would do it, but the thought has been there.... I cant help it sometimes.
Life is messed up.... and I am trying to work thru is as best as possible.,... think of the headlines "suburban girl found dead... comnes from a wealthy home, 2 loving parents, devoted christian family...."
Almost sounds like a movie dosent it!
Life is messed up.... and I am trying to work thru is as best as possible.,... think of the headlines "suburban girl found dead... comnes from a wealthy home, 2 loving parents, devoted christian family...."
Almost sounds like a movie dosent it!
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Well I haven't talked to you before, but I'm glad you doing better! God can comfort you and take away the pain. No matter what you are going through he is there for you and he loves you!
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Hi Candice,
It sounds as if "hurting" may have an inside track on your problem, but I'd like to mention one or two things I think may be helpful.
Firstly, always remember that your thoughts come from outside you and are not a part of you; so don't give them a status and worth that they don't merit. It is possible for us all to identify with any thought that comes to our mind and, in a sense make it our own. You obviously have the grace to reject such behaviour, at least in principle - and most of the time in the past, presumably in practice. It's a bit like faith. St Augustine said if someone wants to know God, he already does know Him.
One thing that doesn't help at all, but is very characteristic of young people, is a propensity for self-pity. But it is one of the most harmful and destructive things; to others, because they know they may not be able to help you in the way you would like; but mostly to yourself. It stifles the grace God wants us to have. As a Christian, you're called to be battler, as well as a very sweet young lady; the two are by no means incompatible.
A French Jesuit spiritual writer called de Caussade (I forget his Chrsitian name) writes about the "Sacrament of the Present Moment". This basically means you don't just take one day at a time, but each moment is a means of sanctification. If God wants you to pick up a piece of paper and put it in the waste-paper basket at a particular moment, in a particular circumstance of your life, it is better to do that than to give your body to be burnt at the stake, etc. But it does also mean we should never weary of unwanted thoughts and get dejected, but realise that you cannot please God more at that time than by dealing with it as no more than a trial, like any other. Christ's grace will see you through to calmer waters and a sunnier landscape.
It may help to silently utter short prayers. As a Catholic, I'm most prone to pray "Sacred Heart of Jesus have mercy on me, and "Immaculate Heart of Mary pray for me". But prayer has to be personal first and foremost doesn't it, so make up your own if you prefer. Long prayers are often impossible during working hours, etc.
It sounds as if "hurting" may have an inside track on your problem, but I'd like to mention one or two things I think may be helpful.
Firstly, always remember that your thoughts come from outside you and are not a part of you; so don't give them a status and worth that they don't merit. It is possible for us all to identify with any thought that comes to our mind and, in a sense make it our own. You obviously have the grace to reject such behaviour, at least in principle - and most of the time in the past, presumably in practice. It's a bit like faith. St Augustine said if someone wants to know God, he already does know Him.
One thing that doesn't help at all, but is very characteristic of young people, is a propensity for self-pity. But it is one of the most harmful and destructive things; to others, because they know they may not be able to help you in the way you would like; but mostly to yourself. It stifles the grace God wants us to have. As a Christian, you're called to be battler, as well as a very sweet young lady; the two are by no means incompatible.
A French Jesuit spiritual writer called de Caussade (I forget his Chrsitian name) writes about the "Sacrament of the Present Moment". This basically means you don't just take one day at a time, but each moment is a means of sanctification. If God wants you to pick up a piece of paper and put it in the waste-paper basket at a particular moment, in a particular circumstance of your life, it is better to do that than to give your body to be burnt at the stake, etc. But it does also mean we should never weary of unwanted thoughts and get dejected, but realise that you cannot please God more at that time than by dealing with it as no more than a trial, like any other. Christ's grace will see you through to calmer waters and a sunnier landscape.
It may help to silently utter short prayers. As a Catholic, I'm most prone to pray "Sacred Heart of Jesus have mercy on me, and "Immaculate Heart of Mary pray for me". But prayer has to be personal first and foremost doesn't it, so make up your own if you prefer. Long prayers are often impossible during working hours, etc.
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I am so sorry that you are going throught this. I know that it must be very hard. I have never experienced these kinds of feelings before but I have had my share of troubles with depression. I used to think that the world would be better off with out me. I know better now. Just as I have overcome my deppression you can overcome your problem.
For starters you need to go to your local mentel health clinic. They can get you hooked up in a group with people that are having the same kind of problems you are and with a theorpist that can help you. If you can't afford these kinds of things your local mental health clinic can help you with that also.
You also need to find someone that you can trust that you can call everytime you start feeling like you want to cut yourself. It needs to be someone you can really trust and depend on to help you work through your feelings.
Also stay in church. Your church family can be a good support group. Talk to your pastor. He can help you and pray with you. Even though this is a mental disorder that you will need counseling for, the devil is the one that put this on you. Prayer will help. Don't let the devil get the best of you . The Lord loves you and with Him you are never alove.
A good site that you can go to for support with along with this one is http://christians-in-recovery.org .
You will be in my prayers. I love you!
For starters you need to go to your local mentel health clinic. They can get you hooked up in a group with people that are having the same kind of problems you are and with a theorpist that can help you. If you can't afford these kinds of things your local mental health clinic can help you with that also.
You also need to find someone that you can trust that you can call everytime you start feeling like you want to cut yourself. It needs to be someone you can really trust and depend on to help you work through your feelings.
Also stay in church. Your church family can be a good support group. Talk to your pastor. He can help you and pray with you. Even though this is a mental disorder that you will need counseling for, the devil is the one that put this on you. Prayer will help. Don't let the devil get the best of you . The Lord loves you and with Him you are never alove.
A good site that you can go to for support with along with this one is http://christians-in-recovery.org .
You will be in my prayers. I love you!
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I understand what you are going through. I also cut myself. I dont do it to get attention. Sometimes its to punish myself and sometimes its just so that I can feel something. The longest I have ever gone without cutting is about three months and during that time i overdosed on medication instead. I dont know if I will ever be able to stop. I have such an urge at the moment to cut but I have no blades left in the house. Hopefully the urge will pass but if it doesn't I will more than likely turn to blunt knives. My doctors know but dont seem interested or to even care.
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MelBel you should see a different doctor if your dont care about you cutting, becuz thats not a good habbit to have! i also cut, but if you get help and someone to be accountable to it really helps.
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From someone else that has experience in self injury: Some people have an overpowering/overwhelming urge for justice, especially if the rightful authorities have let you down. The only time i wanted to cut was when I was hurting. (Cutting is different than suicide. With most cutters, the intention isn't to kill themselves, but to relieve some sort of pain.) I really wanted to hurt those that hurt me. But, since that really isn't the right thing to do, or it's otherwise impossible (physical restraints, etc.), I'd instead take out on myself. Someone had to pay for it.....
I guess you could call me a recovered cutter. I did it in my teens when my parents abuse was at it's highest. Yes, it was a brief relief, but I'd end up hurting more that I already was. But one day, after years of doing it, a light bulb went off in my head: "They hurt me. I'm like this because of their words and actions. Why am I hurting myself more?" After that realization, I never cut again.
Sometimes, especially in those persons with mental illnesses, the obvious isn't obvious at all. Sometimes someone just has to speak up and say it. If there are other people that can relate to me, I hope that I have stated the obvious to someone who can't see it for themselves, and I hope it helps.
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I guess you could call me a recovered cutter. I did it in my teens when my parents abuse was at it's highest. Yes, it was a brief relief, but I'd end up hurting more that I already was. But one day, after years of doing it, a light bulb went off in my head: "They hurt me. I'm like this because of their words and actions. Why am I hurting myself more?" After that realization, I never cut again.
Sometimes, especially in those persons with mental illnesses, the obvious isn't obvious at all. Sometimes someone just has to speak up and say it. If there are other people that can relate to me, I hope that I have stated the obvious to someone who can't see it for themselves, and I hope it helps.
Steph
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One important thing you young women - and conversely, you lads - should really understand and inwardly digest is that what really makes you feminine (and the lads masculine) is the way you think, not the way you look.
These are not just empty but well-meaning blandishments. It's a plain fact that we can all observe all around us, all the time. It leads to a certain amount of strife in marriage, but for most of us, it's more than made up for by the humour it also gives rise to! In the UK, the advertisers have really latched onto it, and some of the best, most humorous adverts are based on the mismatched ways in which we think, etc.
I mentioned women I know who are not blessed with great physical beauty, but are still extremely attractive to men. I mentioned their serenity, but of course, the magic is its association with the gender difference, so notable in the way they think. Nutty, it seems to us, but I know they think the same of us!
You can try as hard as you like, but nothing will mask your femininity, if you just relax enough to be yourself. Same with the lads the other way round. Oh what a boon it is to be a decrepid old geeezer, when I read of the misery, almost despair of some of you, and remember what it was like to be an insecure teenager.
These are not just empty but well-meaning blandishments. It's a plain fact that we can all observe all around us, all the time. It leads to a certain amount of strife in marriage, but for most of us, it's more than made up for by the humour it also gives rise to! In the UK, the advertisers have really latched onto it, and some of the best, most humorous adverts are based on the mismatched ways in which we think, etc.
I mentioned women I know who are not blessed with great physical beauty, but are still extremely attractive to men. I mentioned their serenity, but of course, the magic is its association with the gender difference, so notable in the way they think. Nutty, it seems to us, but I know they think the same of us!
You can try as hard as you like, but nothing will mask your femininity, if you just relax enough to be yourself. Same with the lads the other way round. Oh what a boon it is to be a decrepid old geeezer, when I read of the misery, almost despair of some of you, and remember what it was like to be an insecure teenager.
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