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<blockquote data-quote="mindlight" data-source="post: 67380975" data-attributes="member: 21246"><p>Equality seems to be a secular liberal concept as it has been realised in the USA and Europe rather than a Christian one. An Archangel and a caterpillar may well be equally inferior to God and yet there is a serious inequality between them which is not a problem in itself. We are all made in Gods image and that implies an equal dignity. We are all equally capable of being saved by Christ and all have potential access to a future with God. But I cannot see much in the bible about the necessity of an equality of outcome regarding incomes and wealth for instance.</p><p></p><p>Also while races and sexes are clearly of equal worth in scripture and a gay man or a Muslim has an equal dignity with a Christian there is nothing in scripture that asserts a sinful lifestyle or commitment to a false religion as being an equal choice to righteous living and true worship. Allowing the people the freedom of their freewill choices within limits seems compatible with scriptures but to promote sinful lifestyles and enshrine sins into law as if they were equivalent to righteous choices seems to show a loss of discernment and of understanding of the difference between right and wrong.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is nothing that says this should be an automatic right for Christians to support programmes for non Christians but it is clear that comprehensive schemes are generally more efficient.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Absolute poverty is not a real issue in the USA and relative poverty is not a moral issue. But I also agree with the concept of a comprehensive safety net on the grounds of good stewardship.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If abortion is murder of a defenceless child that position seems to lack Christian perspective.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Civil contracts did that and were adequate to ensure freewill choices were respected and property rights in such relationships protected. But gay marriage enshrines lies in to law and thereby undermines the authority of law.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Obamas indecent haste to get out of Iraq is a root cause for the rise of ISIS as was his dithering over Syria which allowed time for the revolution to be hijacked by radical Islamists.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Clinton was a good steward reducing debt and managing the economy well. He did not have 911 and its aftermath to deal with and he was lucky not to have the banking crash of 2008 on his watch. Since America had no rivals at that time thanks to the previous republican administration it might have done better. Also the hard choices which laid the foundations for American prosperity in the 90s were really laid by George Bush Senior.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The levels of inequality between the super rich and the poorest is massive in the USA and there are social stability and efficiency issues arising from such discrepancies. But if the Democrats are supposed to be the poor mans choice how come inequality of income and wealth has increased under the Democrats and social mobility declined?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mindlight, post: 67380975, member: 21246"] Equality seems to be a secular liberal concept as it has been realised in the USA and Europe rather than a Christian one. An Archangel and a caterpillar may well be equally inferior to God and yet there is a serious inequality between them which is not a problem in itself. We are all made in Gods image and that implies an equal dignity. We are all equally capable of being saved by Christ and all have potential access to a future with God. But I cannot see much in the bible about the necessity of an equality of outcome regarding incomes and wealth for instance. Also while races and sexes are clearly of equal worth in scripture and a gay man or a Muslim has an equal dignity with a Christian there is nothing in scripture that asserts a sinful lifestyle or commitment to a false religion as being an equal choice to righteous living and true worship. Allowing the people the freedom of their freewill choices within limits seems compatible with scriptures but to promote sinful lifestyles and enshrine sins into law as if they were equivalent to righteous choices seems to show a loss of discernment and of understanding of the difference between right and wrong. There is nothing that says this should be an automatic right for Christians to support programmes for non Christians but it is clear that comprehensive schemes are generally more efficient. Absolute poverty is not a real issue in the USA and relative poverty is not a moral issue. But I also agree with the concept of a comprehensive safety net on the grounds of good stewardship. If abortion is murder of a defenceless child that position seems to lack Christian perspective. Civil contracts did that and were adequate to ensure freewill choices were respected and property rights in such relationships protected. But gay marriage enshrines lies in to law and thereby undermines the authority of law. Obamas indecent haste to get out of Iraq is a root cause for the rise of ISIS as was his dithering over Syria which allowed time for the revolution to be hijacked by radical Islamists. Clinton was a good steward reducing debt and managing the economy well. He did not have 911 and its aftermath to deal with and he was lucky not to have the banking crash of 2008 on his watch. Since America had no rivals at that time thanks to the previous republican administration it might have done better. Also the hard choices which laid the foundations for American prosperity in the 90s were really laid by George Bush Senior. The levels of inequality between the super rich and the poorest is massive in the USA and there are social stability and efficiency issues arising from such discrepancies. But if the Democrats are supposed to be the poor mans choice how come inequality of income and wealth has increased under the Democrats and social mobility declined? [/QUOTE]
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