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artybloke said:Yes, very easily.
Firstly, Jesus never says anything in support of or against a modernistic literalist view of Genesis. Why would he? It wasn't part of his message of liberation.
Secondly, he lived in the 1st century AD, 1800 and more years before the modern theory of evolution was first mooted. How could a man who lived before the theory was thought of have any knowledge of said theory, and why would he be any more of an idiot than Plato, who also didn't know about it?
Jesus would no more know about evolution than he would about the plot of The Bold & the Beautiful. Why would he need to?
ThaiDuykhang said:What this has to anthing to do with my post?
I just ask you do you think I or any faithful can push a law recognizing wiccan gods as Christian God. answer me yes or no
ThaiDuykhang said:Get this schizophrenia sorted out before making another post. I beg you.
US wages war to liberate Iraq because at considering the situations US believes a war is the best way.
people who don't believe in war are called pacifists and will never wage war.
people do something because they believe it's right.
What are you babbling about?ThaiDuykhang said:So abortion is for the best of US and Kerry isn't a member of the US society. you're assuming J Kerry is a schizo. I guess he's more likely a hypocrite than a schizo.
ThaiDuykhang said:added 2 more arguments in #1, please check them out
ThaiDuykhang said:I'm showing you God never lie to teach something.
Wrong! the first firmament mean sky which birds fly. the second firmament is the out space. and there're water above horizon before the flood which make enviroment much better so human can live 912 years on average.
You can believe Jesus can heal by laying hand, why can't you believe animals possessed by Satan can talk?
That's the way he created everything. that's the way He told Bible writers to record it. I don't know why something written beautifully can't be true. do things have to be full of blasphemies to be true? think about it.
Then Jews could work 6 days and rest for the rest of their lives! you observed any macroevolution? no scientist agrees with you. so God created everything in the first 6 days.
ThaiDuykhang said:I'm showing you God never lie to teach something.
Wrong! the first firmament mean sky which birds fly. the second firmament is the out space. and there're water above horizon before the flood which make enviroment much better so human can live 912 years on average.
You can believe Jesus can heal by laying hand, why can't you believe animals possessed by Satan can talk?
That's the way he created everything. that's the way He told Bible writers to record it. I don't know why something written beautifully can't be true. do things have to be full of blasphemies to be true? think about it.
Then Jews could work 6 days and rest for the rest of their lives! you observed any macroevolution? no scientist agrees with you. so God created everything in the first 6 days.
Please cite the chapter and paragraph in the Catholic Catechism that teaches December 25 as the actual date of Christ's birth.ThaiDuykhang said:Your Church teaches so, My Church teaches so.
I'll not debate anything privately. since you posted it here. I'll reply to it here.Robert the Pilegrim said:PMed and posted on "Why do some Chrisitan's dismiss Creationism?"
Robert the Pilegrim said:Please cite the chapter and paragraph in the Catholic Catechism that teaches December 25 as the actual date of Christ's birth.
ThaiDuykhang I would ask you to take a deep breath and relax.
Look at the name calling you are engaging in, don't try to excuse it by the fact that others, myself included, have been a bit rough on you.
Is this behaviour that you are proud of?
You think we are acusing God of lieing because we don't believe in a literal interpretation of Genesis.
We disagree. I suggest you show a little respect and perhaps some wisdom in accepting that maybe there are ways of looking at the Bible that you don't understand, rather than making accusations and engaging in name calling.
That doesn't mean you agree, just that respect our right to disagree over what is a peripheral issue in the bigger picture of salvation.
I strongly suspect that most of the people here are not upset with your beliefs, though they disagree with them, they are upset with your attitude that yours is the only way and the fact that you keep bringing up seriously flawed (and mostly old) arguments, particularly about the physical evidence, doing so rather beligerantly and refusing to acknowledge that you may be wrong.
The only argument I've seen you bring up that has any traction at all is the question of Sirius being red.
This is something you will find often in your life, that other Christians don't fully agree with you and yet if you spend some time with them you will find that they too are sincere and devout.
So maybe you should take a break for a while and cool down a bit.
Ah, and maybe others on these threads should do the same.
Yours Truly,
Robert the Pilegrim
You are born on this Night, our divine Redeemer, and, in our journey along the paths of time, you become for us the food of eternal life.
Do you have a Bible at hand. show me a lie.shernren said:No, I showed that God uses myths to teach all the time. If you call myths lies, then the Bible is chock-full of lies even if Genesis 1 is absolutely historical and true.
You're distorting Bible just to attack it. birds fly in the firmament. the heaven birds fly in isn't the heaven we want to go in afterlife. there're 3 heavens in all.shernren said:No, Genesis 1 has only one firmament. There are waters above it, waters below it, and birds flying on the face of it.
Just because Genesis is written beautifully, you don't believe it's real. Darwin's book is full of racism, blasphemies, fa and you believe it's true. what's the logic?shernren said:Is evolution full of blasphemies? To say that we believe something full of blasphemies should amount to saying that we are not Christian, and counts as a subtle Bible hammer in my judgment.
If you think the 7th day hasn't finished then no one should rest. as simple as that. If the 7th day is 1000 years then you can work 6 days and rest for 1000 years. I don't know which you failed to understand.shernren said:Gee, no Jews should work, exactly! Good to see you start interpreting the Bible literally!God hasn't stopped resting from creating and therefore the 7th day hasn't finished.
gluadys said:Even Wiccans would not want their gods recognized as the Christian God. Where do you get this foolishness from?
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Not abusive, Kerry believe something is good for the society isn't good for himself and pushes it. that's medically called schizophrenia. ask any doctor if you like.The Lady Kate said:Abusive, aren't you? Why do you hate your fellow Christians so much?
To show people do something because they feel it's right and necessary.The Lady Kate said:Who said anything about Iraq?
It's impossible. find a pacifist. they'll told you all wars are immoral and unnecessary.The Lady Kate said:And is it not possible for a pacifist to look at a situation and say "just this once, war is immoral, but still necessary?
The Lady Kate said:What are you babbling about?
John Kerry, despite his own personal moral objections, believes that abortian is legal, and as such, should remain so. He is willing to defer to the will of the people. He is able to separate his personal feeling from his duties in office.
Whatever his personal moral vaules may be, in this case, he's not willing to impose this one on the nation.
George Bush is a Christian... why doesn't he enforce Christianity as the law of the land? Is he a schizo or a hypocrite?
Are Christian politicians who do not want to enforce Christianity as law being schizos or hypocrites?
The Lady Kate said:By now, I would hope you've figured it out, Thaiduykhang... you are the reason Christians dismiss Creationism.
ThaiDuykhang said:Not abusive, Kerry believe something is good for the society isn't good for himself and pushes it.
that's medically called schizophrenia. ask any doctor if you like.
ThaiDuykhang said:If a Christian before choosing his stance on Creationism/TE see the status of TEs in this thread, I bet $100 he'll choose Creationism
ThaiDuykhang said:Catholic Church teaches law should forbid abortion. so you're more willing to follow a heretic?
George Bush is bring back Christian values to US.
he can't enforce Christianity as a state religion because 1) it's against constitution.
2) you can't force a religion among people. you can only convert someone to Christianity only if he wishes.
3) Christianity has never been a state religion. Catholicism and Protestantism have been. but never Christianity as whole.
The Lady Kate said:Going to burn me at the stake? Or will stoning suffice?
If you're unwilling to debate why bring it up.The Lady Kate said:Failing miserably at it, IMHO. I see very little in Bush's actions that show any values, let alone Christian ones.... but that's a topic for another thread.
Bush isn't the CongressThe Lady Kate said:Which Congress has the right to amend... so why not?
The Lady Kate said:But you don't seem to have issues with forcing religious values on other people against their wishes.
ThaiDuykhang said:Catholic Church teaches law should forbid abortion. so you're more willing to follow a heretic?
George Bush is bring back Christian values to US. he can't enforce Christianity as a state religion because 1) it's against constitution. 2) you can't force a religion among people. you can only convert someone to Christianity only if he wishes. 3) Christianity has never been a state religion. Catholicism and Protestantism have been. but never Christianity as whole.
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