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Academics? Scholars?...and you really are of the opinion of yourself that the academics haven't and cannot refute such vanity?
Jealousy gets you nowhere, chum. As conspicuously is apparent.
A Seventh-day Adventist . . . who could have guessed ...
You asked me to show you where any unrepentant sinner gets to be with God. If you want to discuss the subject I will. But firstly you would have to answer a question.I have to go to bed, I can't sleep at night--before I go, one last time----
This topic ends when you show what verse states we do not have to keep any commandment, that you can be saved even if you break them and are unrepentant. Just show me where it says any unrepentant sinner gets to be with God. YOU DO NOT KEEP THE 10 COMMANDMENTS IN ORDER TO BE SAVED, YOU KEEP THEM BECAUSE YOU ARE SAVED.
I realize that you don't understand the concept, I am sorry, I have no other way to phrase it that would explain it any better. If you can point to where Jesus says--There are now only 9 commandments, and you don't even have to keep any of them-----I will relent.
THERE IS NO SDA THAT BELIEVES IF YOU KEEP ALL THE 10 COMMANDMENTS, YOU WILL BE SAVED. I know of none, have never met one.
YOU DO NOT KEEP THE 10 COMMANDMENTS IN ORDER TO BE SAVED, YOU KEEP THEM BECAUSE YOU ARE SAVEDYOU DO NOT KEEP THE 10 COMMANDMENTS IN ORDER TO BE SAVED, YOU KEEP THEM BECAUSE YOU ARE SAVED
I could keep repeating it, but I know it will not get through. Good night.
Interpret?? Look into. One thing about prophetic utterances, they usually can't be figured out until they have already happened. Then it's like--oh, yah, that fits everything.
Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
This is about one individual--one king--"He shall"--this is about one king that comes after 10 kings, different from the other 10, who subdues 3 kings-- that thinks to change times and laws. "They shall be given into his hand for a time, times and the dividing of time." What is given to him for that length of time? The laws and times he changes?? How long is time, times and the dividing of times. Seems like if this has already happened, you then should be able to figure out what fits all those things. It says the 10 kings come during the 4th kingdom of this earth. A kingdom that devours the whole earth. So what were the first 3 kingdoms? Then the 4th should be pretty easy to figure out and the first 3 are described in Daniel 2:38-45. Once the 4th kingdom is figured out, then this special king should be made clearer and so will the times and laws. But then, maybe you're not interested anyway.
From my experience few actually know their churches full statement of faith. Just the parts they glean from sermons( I havent been to churches where creeds are recited)This is self incriminating, it reveals you. I am a seventh day Adventist only in the sense that I expect the immanent return of Christ and I believe nothing has changed regarding the Law. The SDA has 28 defining beliefs and I do not know what they are; about 35 years back when I had a relationship with the SDA there was 4 things an SDA must believe and I didn't believe two of the four.
What would you call a covenant where Christ died in your place for your sins?
The Laws of the priesthood in Hebrews 7 changed instantly according to Paul when Heb 8:1-5 points to Christ as our High Priest and not at all a Levite.
The Laws of the sacrifices and offerings changed instantly in Hebrews 10 at Christ's "once for all time" sacrifice replacing all others.
Meanwhile in the example above 'you quote you' as your text.
I say let the objective unbiased reader choose. It is left as an exercise for the reader.
Actually the NIV does capitalise it.
I read the NIV
But scholars did the translation!No one can hate SDA like I hate the NIV.
You seem to be suggesting that I see myself as an authority but I am just having a conversation.
I do not follow Paul, I follow the true Sheppard. I don't know that Paul wrote Hebrews. Hebrews is not a universal document it is a private communication which leaves us to imagine the context. To Jews the writer of Hebrews says, "it wasn't your fault, the Law failed."
Jesus made it very clear that the Jews failed, not necessarily all of them.
Matthew 23:37-38 (NKJV)
37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!
38 See! Your house is left to you desolate;
What you and maybe Paul are calling changes to the Law are difference in administration and application; remembering SDA teaching the sanctuary service is a copy of that in heaven; changing the Law would make Christ's Priesthood illegitimate as well as the rest of His priesthood (us) illegitimate.
Changing the Sabbath to Sunday would be a bad thing.
The NT never says anything about circumcision being changed - there was never a time when gentiles were required to be circumcised - OT or NT.
But scholars did the translation!
This is self incriminating, it reveals you. I am a seventh day Adventist only in the sense that I expect the immanent return of Christ and I believe nothing has changed regarding the Law. The SDA has 28 defining beliefs and I do not know what they are; about 35 years back when I had a relationship with the SDA there was 4 things an SDA must believe and I didn't believe two of the four.
At that time, Jesus full of joy through the Holy Spirit said.
I praise you Father, Lord of Heaven and earth for you have hidden these things from the wise and learned and revealed them to little children. Yes Father, for this was your good pleasure Luke10:21
Again you are following the wrong Shepard.
If any of God's laws could be changed God would loose His credibility; there would be no end to change.
The name or type of the Covenant is blood covenant, which means when the covenant is broken the shedding of blood is required, normally the blood of the one who breaks the covenant is shed. Jesus is the Lamb of God since the foundation and all the lambs sacrificed were surrogates for Christ; Christ's blood extends from the foundation to the Kingdom of God. The shedding of blood is not the covenant, at least not exclusively; the covenant is that which has been broken and anyone who hasn't broken the covenant has no need of Christ's blood and one can not break the covenant unless he is signatory of the covenant. If we are having an argument it cannot go anywhere because we have no common point of reference. Covenant of grace is an oxymoron, covenant is law and grace is lawless which combine to produce lawless law.
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