Why do people judge mormons, isnt that Gods decision?

[skylark1]

Whats wrong with you? Why do you give a thumbs up to Der Alta and not Jenda. It's Jenda who is fighting your corner not Der Alta. Incase you missed the meaning of Der Alta's post he WANTS YOU OUT.

Perhaps he is a John Wayne fan.

 

[happyinhisgrace]

Perhaps he is a John Wayne fan.

That's what I took it to mean too.

 

[mawuvi]

And it is only your OPINION that mormons are not Christians. Or did God come down and give you that personal revelation that says specific people are not Christian?

Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Jenda I guess what Der Alta is saying is Christianity is defined by the Nicene Creed on this message board. Nowhere else, (not even in real life) but in this blip, tiny, winy corner of cyberspace the Nicene Creed is king. Everything we say or post here are just pixels that float for a monent and are gone forever. So why worry

 

[Rescued One]

And it is only your OPINION that mormons are not Christians. Or did God come down and give you that personal revelation that says specific people are not Christian?

Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Are you asking if we went out in a "sacred grove" and prayed to know which churches were an abomination to God?

Do you, yourself, ever receive answers to prayer in your house?

About the judging, one has to take into consideration the whole of the Bible, not just Matthew 7: 1-2.

John 7
24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

Galatians 1
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

 

[Der Alte]

So the fact that other people have judged unrighteously gives you the right to?

How am I judging unrighteously? Who are these others that are suppposedly judging unrighteously? In response to a question I made a statement based on certain facts. I used a movie scene to underscore that statement. I do not go to your house, track mud all over the carpet, criticize your housekeeping and cooking, then cry and complain when you tell me if I don't like it I can always leave. I don't know of anybody who had a gun put to their head and was forced to come to this forum.

 

[Der Alte]

Whats wrong with you? Why do you give a thumbs up to Der Alta and not Jenda. It's Jenda who is fighting your corner not Der Alta. Incase you missed the meaning of Der Alta's post he WANTS YOU OUT.

My name is D-e-r A-l-t-e-r. I only want someone out if they can't play nice. I think there is a link down at the bottom that explains how to play nice.

 

[Rescued One]

Ja, Der Alter, und vas ist so hard about dat?

 

[Der Alte]

Ja, Der Alter, und vas ist so hard about dat?

Jahwohl, und sie sollen es nie mals vergessen.

 

[mawuvi]

Jahwohl, und sie sollen es nie mals vergessen.

Was that a hint Der Alter? (See I finally got your name right) Well what can I say. The SS stormtroopers are here. We better pack and go home.

 

[Fit4Christ]

And it is only your OPINION that mormons are not Christians. Or did God come down and give you that personal revelation that says specific people are not Christian?

Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

God knows what's in our hearts and He will judge us accordingly. Some here say all lds are not Christian and therefore will not be with God. Some here say that some lds may be Christians and may be with God. IMO, the latter may be more likely true than the former. But, on another thread, I asked if a particular lds would stand before God and proclaim that Joseph Smith was one of His prophets, that the BoM, D&C's, and PGP ("mormon doctrine") were His Word in addition to the Bible. He said yes he would stand before God and profess that. IMO, based on the test of a prophet in Deut. 18:20-22, and God's Word to "test the spirits" (1 John 4:1), I beleive the lds member is headed for a whole lot of trouble and will have some explaining to do before God. But, I cannot go so far as to condem him because that's for God to do. I can only state that he's on a path that leads to a lake of fire and pray for him that he will get on the right path, God's path.

Do we as Christians have the right to judge other doctrines/beliefs? Absolutely. There are many Biblical references, but I'll take your Matthew 7:2 quote above. We, as Christians, judge other non-Christian doctrines/beliefs based on the Bible. Based on your quote, those of us who judge those non-Chirstian doctrines/beliefs will also be judged on what our doctrines/beliefs are. I can't speak for others on CF, but I'm totally fine with that, since my only doctrine is the Bible and my beliefs flow from that.

 

[A New Dawn]

My name is D-e-r A-l-t-e-r. I only want someone out if they can't play nice. I think there is a link down at the bottom that explains how to play nice.

The only problem I see is that you seem to consider someone defending themselves against the almost incessant harassment, not playing nice.

It is the almost incessant harassment that makes one appear to be judgmental. That is my point. Questions and discussions are one thing, but harassing is another.

 

[A New Dawn]

Are you asking if we went out in a "sacred grove" and prayed to know which churches were an abomination to God?

Do you, yourself, ever receive answers to prayer in your house?

Yes, I do. Most play out in the normal scheme of life, but some are very dramatic answers. Answers that come in dreams, visions, etc.

About the judging, one has to take into consideration the whole of the Bible, not just Matthew 7: 1-2.

John 7
24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

Galatians 1
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

I know about the judge righteously scriptures also, but everyone's idea of "righteously" is different. It is safer to go with the don't judge at all scriptures.

 

[Rescued One]

Yes, I do. Most play out in the normal scheme of life, but some are very dramatic answers. Answers that come in dreams, visions, etc.



I know about the judge righteously scriptures also, but everyone's idea of "righteously" is different. It is safer to go with the don't judge at all scriptures.

It is wrong to acknowledge false prophets as Christians. God is not the author of confusion and we are responsible for knowing and teaching correct doctrine.

1 Thessalonians 5
21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

Proverbs 14
12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

Christians can't share the truth with others if they say that pluralism is okay.

 

[A New Dawn]

It is wrong to acknowledge false prophets as Christians. God is not the author of confusion and we are responsible for knowing and teaching correct doctrine.

1 Thessalonians 5
21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

Proverbs 14
12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

Christians can't share the truth with others if they say that pluralism is okay.

I'm not sure I understand the meaning of your post. Are you suggesting that because I have dreams and visions that answer my prayers that I am claiming to be a false prophet? What of what I said are your remarks in reference to? I don't believe I stated anything about, or even suggesting, pluralism.