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Whose remains are “Lucy”?Why does this impossible process, with impossible odds, seem so rational to this new breed of Christians? It's growing, and it might be blasphemy. Aren't they calling God a liar?
That’s right. Just the other day I was staring at a turtle crawling across my yard and by the time it reached the fence, it had evolved wings and flew away!Probably because it's directly observed to happen. Reality is a pretty solid argument.
That’s right. Just the other day I was staring at a turtle crawling across my yard and by the time it reached the fence, it had evolved wings and flew away!
They are mentioned in the Bible.
Job 40:15-24
“Behold, Behemoth, which I made as I made you; he eats grass like an ox. Behold, his strength in his loins, and his power in the muscles of his belly. He makes his tail stiff like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together. His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like bars of iron. “He is the first of the works of God; let him who made him bring near his sword! ...
Isaiah 27:1
In that day the Lord with his hard and great and strong sword will punish Leviathan the fleeing serpent, Leviathan the twisting serpent, and he will slay the dragon that is in the sea.
Job 41:1-34
“Can you draw out Leviathan with a fishhook or press down his tongue with a cord? Can you put a rope in his nose or pierce his jaw with a hook? Will he make many pleas to you? Will he speak to you soft words? Will he make a covenant with you to take him for your servant forever? Will you play with him as with a bird, or will you put him on a leash for your girls? ...
Psalm 74:13
You divided the sea by your might; you broke the heads of the sea monsters on the waters.
Dinosaurs were called dragons for thousands of years before the name was changed to dinosaur in 1841. There are dragon stories all over the world because they have always intrigued and brought fear to man. Yet they are simply an animal, and like all animals no matter how fierce they are still no match for mankind.
The word of God is not preserved on pages, nor tables of stone, but in the hearts of His disciples alone.You do realize that the Bible was compiled by men,depending on faith, tradition, and scholarship, right? Fallible men decided which books were the word of God. There wasn't any canon at at all until the high middle ages, and even today, Christians can't entirely agree on what comprises the word of God.
It appears to me that you are without the realization that Genesis is about Christ, and authored by Him, through the pen of Moses.OK, so how does that apply to Christians who believe in evolution? That has nothing to do with faith in Christ.
LOL!I find the evidence for evolution to be convincing. I find the insistent comparison between evolution and the first couple Genesis chapters to be a category mistake.
One is a religious document making claims about God, the world, and humanity (and the relation between the three). The main thrust of these claims is outside the purview of scientific investigation, i.e. metaphysics. The other is a theory based on data, i.e. physical phenomena. It's a category mistake and a sign of intellectual laziness and arrogance to not acknowledge and allow for the differences between the two.
No, I'm so glad you wrote it the way you did--let's me know what I'm dealing with immediately--saves a lot of time.Maybe I should have put that in a more gentle way. Something like, "It's just not helpful."
Yes, indeed, I fully agree!I certainly meant my initial response, and I don't so much regret it as think it could bar acceptance by instigating a reaction instead of encouraging consideration, if that makes sense. The "yikes" alerted me to the possibility. Then I thought, "Maybe there was a better way to put that."
As far as Jesus goes, he was not always gentle, lol. Clearly, I fall short of his standard. But, he had no qualms about calling a group of people a "brood of vipers."
Wow. I must've been out of the loop for too long my last hiatus...Probably because it's directly observed to happen. Reality is a pretty solid argument.
Man, two for two--please provide a singular reference to substantiate that allegation, I would also appreciate that too, thanks.Accepting God's creation doesn't seem blasphemous to me. On the other hand, denying it, as creationists do, might be. Personally, I don't think so, but you could make the argument that creationists are calling God a liar. I don't think they intend to do that, though.
--providing some evidence for that claim is what would be solid, thanks again.It just takes evidence. And since it's been directly observed, that's pretty solid.
Again, a singular citation would be great, thanks in advance.Even many creationist organizations admit that new species, genera,and sometimes higher levels of taxa evolve from other organisms. So they think there's evidence for it.
I'm fully convinced in my heart that it is: please tell me why you think that it isn't. --I would truly appreciate a thoughtful explanation.Understanding that our world evolved through long periods of deep time is not blasphemy, and I take umbrage with any fellow Christian who insists that it is.
Wow: what you're calling nonsense is the actual word of God--He is the one that tells us the evening and the morning were the first day, etc.We are not calling God a liar. Creationists have misunderstood Genesis. Evolution fits the creation account once you take out the 7 24 hour day nonsense.
One citation to prove your claim, would be nice--and should also be easy, according to your claim anyway. Thanks in advance.The fact that you don’t understand a concept doesn’t make it impossible. There is fare more hard evidence for evolution than a young earth.
He could just bring it about by just saying it, right?God most certainly can use natural processes to bring about creation.
I find the evidence for evolution to be convincing. I find the insistent comparison between evolution and the first couple Genesis chapters to be a category mistake.
One is a religious document making claims about God, the world, and humanity (and the relation between the three). The main thrust of these claims is outside the purview of scientific investigation, i.e. metaphysics. The other is a theory based on data, i.e. physical phenomena. It's a category mistake and a sign of intellectual laziness and arrogance to not acknowledge and allow for the differences between the two.
He could just bring it about by just saying it, right?
--You know, He says that He did bring it about by saying it: that's found in Genesis chapter one: do you believe that?
Wow. --in your discussion about Genesis (Origin), you are not talking about "initial-creation"...We aren't talking about initial creation. We are talking about events beyond then.
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