That doesn't answer the question as to why they didn't need temples. I thought they were necessary for ordinances.
The NT says nothing about building temples.
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First off they were scattered in the area and unlike the Mormons who moved into one area.
The apostasy did not begin while apostles were still on earth. That's ridiculous.
If the early church did not need temples then we don't need them today.
Act 20
29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
2 Peter 2
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
2Thess 2
"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;.....For the mystery of iniquity doth already work"
1Tim 1
15 This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.
1John 2
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us;
Jude
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
You either believe the Bible or you don't.
The early Church did have temples maybe not as big and as splendid as we have today, maybe it was just a tent or up on the Mountain of God but they had them.
Just because there were some false teachers creeping in during the time of the apostles doesn't mean that the church had slipped into full blown apostasy.
No, the early church did not have temples. Where are you getting that idea from? There was one temple and it was Jewish.
And yet29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Rev 13: 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Amos 8
11Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor athirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:
12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it.
See posting 8
29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Rev 13: 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Amos 8
11Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor athirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:
12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it.
See posting 8
Act 20
29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
2 Peter 2
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
2Thess 2
"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;.....For the mystery of iniquity doth already work"
1Tim 1
15 This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.
1John 2
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us;
Jude
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
You either believe the Bible or you don't.
Even if wolves enter the sheep pen, that does not drive the sheep into apostasy.29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Rev 13: 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Jesus describes that the most false teachers will enter the church or try to in the last days. Probably during this time period.And yet none of those verses testify that there will be an apostasy during the time of the apostles.
The passage in Revelation is specifically speaking of the Anti-Christ overcoming the saints. So it in no way relates to your argument.
As far as the first passage you quoted goes again I emphasize that just because false teachers were coming to the church this does not mean that the church was in full blown apostasy.
As far as the Amos passage goes you are taking it out of context and it in no way relates.
So who do you believe the wolves are that enter your flock? Can't be Mormons. You don't believe we arebchristians
I don't think so. No one has entered your flocks that are Mormons. They have to be part of your flock. I know I donut want yo be part of your flock. I know that iron hold don't want to be part of your flock. I know that withwanderingawe doesn't want to be part of your flock. It says that it is one of your own that will enter your flock as wolf wearing sheeps clothing. Don't try and push this off on to us.But it is Mormons---claiming to be Christian, they have been trying to sneak in and take over the sheep pen for years---they are the wolves in sheep's clothing. And they have the false prophet they listen to--for they do not listen to the writings of god but the writings of JS. They have led millions into apostasy.
You don't know if we are false or not. Your just guessing. Glad I don't have to guessBut it is Mormons---claiming to be Christian, they have been trying to sneak in and take over the sheep pen for years---they are the wolves in sheep's clothing. And they have the false prophet they listen to--for they do not listen to the writings of god but the writings of JS. They have led millions into apostasy.
You don't know if we are false or not. Your just guessing. Glad I don't have to guess
What on earth are you talking about. We believe in and follow Christ. Don't care if you don't think we are Christian or not. We are Christain. But we are not the new entering your flocks. Those who join our church left for something more than what you have. No flock enteringThey have been trying to call themselves Christians from the start and they are not, but many are led to think so. If you did not call yourselves Christian, then there would be no problem--you go and believe what you want, but you want to be Christians. You are another gospel, if you were honest about it and not insist you are Christian we wouldn't be having this conversation. But it is you who say you have the correct gospel of Jesus, and ours are corrupted---you have a gospel--it is not ours.
It is corrupted from the original. I mean I'm surprised that ll they let your religion I as part of the club. I have read lots of unkind words against your religion yet your all one big happy family if it's against those darn Mormons. It is funny to me that you claim we have the other gospel when it is really you guys who changed it from the original.JS came up with a new gospel, he calls ours gospel corrupted-but he wants to be a part of that so called corrupted gospel and insists on being called Christian. It is the Christian flock that he anted to join, on his terms, not the bible's. His words are not from God, are not scripture, but your church insists on calling them scripture, It is the Christian church that you are trying to be a part of , though you call us corrupted. It is not I that labeled you non Christian, This forum, and other Christians, when they know your true believes, that know you are not Christian, and that now, I also, know you are not. They leave the Christian fold to follow another gospel, then want to come back into that fold with their perverted scriptures and different gospel and be called Christian. If you wish to leave a corrupted church, then leave, why then come back and be called by our name when you are not that anymore???
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