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Why do mainstream Christians believe that anyone who disagrees with them is doomed?

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Why do mainstream Christians believe that anyone who disagrees with them is doomed to eternal suffering in hell? This seems utterly nonsensical to me.

I shall describe my point as thus:

Person 1: The Bible says it's true, so therefore it must be true.
Person 2: Just because the Bible says its true, doesn't mean that it necessarily is true. What about the other religions? What if I believe in God but disagree with the Bible? Why should I believe the Bible is true, and everything else is incorrect?
Person 1: You're going to hell!!
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Some Christians take their religion at it's word because they were brought up in the faith. The term hard wiring would apply here.
They don't question because they were told it is the truth of God and is not to be questioned.

Indeed, at one time in the early church histories, questioning the Bible was a death penalty offense. And for the lower classes to even possess a Bible was too.

During the "Dark Ages" 500-1500 A.D. The Church of Rome burned Bibles and their owners. Because during that time most people, especially those in the so called peasant class, were illiterate. So what would they need possess a Bible or any book for, when they were incapable of reading it?
Thus, the word of God was only to be trusted by those anointed by God to dispense it.

Some people see the Bible as historic fiction. Some as allegory. Some as the absolute irrefutable perfect word of God.

And those who argue not believing in any or all of it, taking measure to judge others who do not, as going to hell violate the words of God that commanded they judge not lest they be judged. And they're also exhibiting the sin of pride.

But then again, they're human.

One of the greatest hurdles to overcome in human behavior is ego.
So to hold faith in any religion that, from it's platform proclaims itself as the one and only truth, and all others are false and damnable according to the writings of said religion, are what is known as an exclusivist doctrine.
To speak and say God created all. But he likes us best! And only when all others become like us, shall they see God,from whence they sprang as souls, again...as souls.

It's a great way to feel smugly superior. To think that God has a favorite.

When really, only man thinks that way.

When something is first believed to create all that is from itself and then sets up rules for finding his favor, by overcoming the human nature God bore us to have, is arguably elitist human ego insulting infinite omnigenesis with it's own smug superiority.

It is not blasphemy to witness God in your mirror when God says in the Bible that describes the Genesis of us all, that we are made in his image and likeness, and so too did Jesus in Luke 17:20-21.

“Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”

If we all saw the word of God written on the heart and in the face of those we meet, be they of any faith or none at all, because we all were born from the same source, we'd live the true message of Christ and we wouldn't witness even the infighting that occurs through sectarianism.

Because Jesus message was Love. Anything less than that for any one, is not the message.

One which began as an oral tradition.

So that todays new testament was written by those who, if we accept Jesus was born in the year 1, can not be proven to have known him. Nor to be the apostles for which the names on the Gospels are attributed.

It's like a game of telephone.
Have a large collection of people in a room and begin a story with the first person and have them repeat that to the one nearest them and so on. By the time that story arrives at the last person and they repeat what they were told aloud, it is never the exact same story as began with the first person.

However, in Jesus time there were literate people. And as such there would have been accounts of Jesus far beyond that of the oral kind, were he to have done all that he did in his lifetime.

So, in short to answer your question, it's two part.

That answer for why do (some) mainstream Christians believe that anyone who disagrees with them is doomed?

First, the Bible say so. Indeed, if someone claims to be a fundamentalist Christian, they would not deem to talk to anyone not Christian.
2 John 1:10-11 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed.11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
Quite unlike what Jesus exampled, isn't it?!

Secondly, it may be observed it's because those type Christians enjoy being right, in the face of adversity, because to question their faith, being humans are egoists, is to question their intellect in electing to hold that faith.

So they take it personally. And for some, there's a smug satisfaction in thinking all those who don't agree with them will find out they were wrong for eternity, while roasting in the Hell God created to prove it.
However, the Bible says even there those who are damned will not be without God.
Psalm 139:8 If I ascend into heaven, You are there;
If I make my bed in hell, behold, You are there.


That is the blessing omnipresence (everywhere infinitely) affords the believer. :angel:

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DATE AND AUTHENTICITY OF THE NEW TESTAMENT In the early twentieth century, most scholars dated the New Testament documents as follows:

Matthew, A.D. 851
Mark, A.D. 60-652
Luke, A.D. 80-853
John, A.D. 90-954
Pauline Epistles, A.D. 48-645


(Continues @ Source - Christian Evidences)
 
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Why do mainstream Christians believe that anyone who disagrees with them is doomed to eternal suffering in hell? This seems utterly nonsensical to me.

It really is view-point dependent. From the logical supposition that you need to "repent" in order to be saved, it logically follows that God's enmity will fall.

On the other hand, if you ascribe to the position that God's mercy is uppermost, then there are other things which might flow logically like universalism, say.

Point is, we can't see every proposition in another's mind, and so it looks to us irrational.
 
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Why do mainstream Christians believe that anyone who disagrees with them is doomed to eternal suffering in hell? This seems utterly nonsensical to me.

I shall describe my point as thus:

Person 1: The Bible says it's true, so therefore it must be true.
Person 2: Just because the Bible says its true, doesn't mean that it necessarily is true. What about the other religions? What if I believe in God but disagree with the Bible? Why should I believe the Bible is true, and everything else is incorrect?
Person 1: You're going to hell!!1!1!11

I think you see my point. This is not intended to be an attack on anyone or any religion-but simply a counterargument to a commonly used school of thought. Yes, I am a Christian, and yes, I am well aware of the fact that Christians believe this because the bible says so.

It is due to logic breakdowns, such as the one I described above, that I have some alternate beliefs concerning the bible. Why should I believe that an all-loving God would send someone to hell, simply because their mind worked differently than Christians? Why would God send anyone to hell, for that matter? I am unable to see how a finite amount of sins equates with an eternity of punishment. It simply does not make any sense. I would not find it too hard to believe in a form of temporary punishment or cleansing (ie: purgatory), but currently I would like to discover more reasons to believe in something like that before I do.

Another argument I shall use is this: If God loves everyone, why would He discriminate against non-Christians? Why should only Christians be able to go to Heaven, while some poor guy on the other side of the world who never had any knowledge of Jesus Christ is doomed to spend an eternity in hell? That does not sound like an all-loving God to me. That sounds like a misinterpretation of an all-loving God.

Yet another problem with the commonly accepted hell theologies is that they sound frighteningly congruent to a ruler attempting to use fear to control his subjects. This would mean that saying "if you don't believe what I believe you're going to hell" sounds like an efficient device to use to get people under your control. It would have been all too easy for someone, or some group, to have edited the Bible thousands of years ago to suit their own needs. Back in ancient times, when people were more susceptible to "you're going to hell if you disagree with me" threats, it would have indeed been an efficient device to control entire populations.


Please share your thoughts concerning these matters in this thread. I am very interested to read them.


well your screen name is a good fit
 
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Why do mainstream Christians believe that anyone who disagrees with them is doomed to eternal suffering in hell? This seems utterly nonsensical to me.

I shall describe my point as thus:

Person 1: The Bible says it's true, so therefore it must be true.
Person 2: Just because the Bible says its true, doesn't mean that it necessarily is true. What about the other religions? What if I believe in God but disagree with the Bible? Why should I believe the Bible is true, and everything else is incorrect?
Person 1: You're going to hell!!1!1!11


I think you see my point. This is not intended to be an attack on anyone or any religion-but simply a counterargument to a commonly used school of thought. Yes, I am a Christian, and yes, I am well aware of the fact that Christians believe this because the bible says so.

I'm not sure if I qualify as "mainstream," but I'll answer you anyway since my beliefs are based on what the Bible teaches.

It is due to logic breakdowns, such as the one I described above, that I have some alternate beliefs concerning the bible. Why should I believe that an all-loving God would send someone to hell, simply because their mind worked differently than Christians? Why would God send anyone to hell, for that matter? I am unable to see how a finite amount of sins equates with an eternity of punishment. It simply does not make any sense. I would not find it too hard to believe in a form of temporary punishment or cleansing (ie: purgatory), but currently I would like to discover more reasons to believe in something like that before I do.

You ask why God would send someone to Hell, but you're asking the wrong question. You should be asking, "How could anyone who is not completely perfect ever earn eternity in a perfect place like Heaven, to live with a God who lacks any flaws?" You can't. No matter how good you are, you can never earn Heaven on your own. Hell is to be locked outside of Heaven.

The punishments in Hell are based on what one had done in their lives. Meaning, the "good people" of the world will fair much better than someone like a terrorist who murdered innocent people. I do not consider the eternal fire to be a literal description of Hell, as Jesus would never describe Heaven in literal terms that we could understand, and Hell is just the other side of the great chasm. As for why it lasts for eternity, all sins have eternal consequences, even long after you're gone. One person murdered, for example, means an entire line of descendents who will never exist.

Another argument I shall use is this: If God loves everyone, why would He discriminate against non-Christians? Why should only Christians be able to go to Heaven, while some poor guy on the other side of the world who never had any knowledge of Jesus Christ is doomed to spend an eternity in hell? That does not sound like an all-loving God to me. That sounds like a misinterpretation of an all-loving God.

God does not love all people. He loves the elect and He rejects the lost. God is perfect in justice, so anything lacking in perfection is disgusting in His sight. It's only because of Christ's sacrifice, which washes us clean, that any of us can be called children of God.

Yet another problem with the commonly accepted hell theologies is that they sound frighteningly congruent to a ruler attempting to use fear to control his subjects. This would mean that saying "if you don't believe what I believe you're going to hell" sounds like an efficient device to use to get people under your control. It would have been all too easy for someone, or some group, to have edited the Bible thousands of years ago to suit their own needs. Back in ancient times, when people were more susceptible to "you're going to hell if you disagree with me" threats, it would have indeed been an efficient device to control entire populations.

People don't go to Hell because they don't agree with somebody's beliefs. They go to Hell because they don't deserve Heaven. People have used Hell as a threat and a method for control through fear, and they still do, but God's mind is different from our mind and it's God's word that matters, not theirs.
 
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That's a relatively new opinion within christendom. Y'all spent centuries murdering and excommunicating and battling each other over pretty insignificant matters of doctrine.

You're being very silly. It took centuries for what you're referring to to begin. Which is the new opinion?
 
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Why do mainstream Christians believe that anyone who disagrees with them is doomed to eternal suffering in hell? This seems utterly nonsensical to me.

I shall describe my point as thus:

Person 1: The Bible says it's true, so therefore it must be true.
Person 2: Just because the Bible says its true, doesn't mean that it necessarily is true. What about the other religions? What if I believe in God but disagree with the Bible? Why should I believe the Bible is true, and everything else is incorrect?
Person 1: You're going to hell!!1!1!11

There are two types of religion: monotheistic and polytheistic. And you need to know that Christianity is monotheistic. There is only ONE God.

So, it is simple enough. Acknowledge the only God and worship Him. Or do not. There seems to be no room for other choices.

Simple enough. Right?

If you like the situation that this could be right, that could also be right, and everything could have some right in it, then do not choose Christianity.
 
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