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I have a pretty good idea how it goes down....create a world so unbearable that the world would welcome a false messianic age ...Don't remember the plagues off hand. Might be.
I have a pretty good idea how it goes down....create a world so unbearable that the world would welcome a false messianic age ...
Forced upon us ...the kingdom of heaven suffers violence and the violent take it by force....but because of this the true wrath of hashem falls ...
I don,t think it,s that easy.
For example,
the custom in the times of David, was that,
when married men went into battle beforehand they would divorce themselves from their wives,
so if they did not come back the exwife would be free to marry again on the spot, so to speak,
all the paperwork done.
One reason why David did not consider that he commited adultery,
Yep...we must not accept the false but continue to wait on him at all costThat's a Christian POV.
My remarks were not at all concerning his second coming as prophesied in the Bible. Rather, it was relating to the fact that if Jesus were to be born again as a human male, and do all those things he did the first time, after more than 2000 years of worship dedicated to his fulfillment of scriptures and the prophecy arrived as pertains to Messiah, the Jews would still reject him.When Jesus returns it will not be like the first time. .as a man... He will return as a glorious son of god as an angel ...and with the resurrected saints and angels ...it will be pretty convincing .
My remarks were not at all concerning his second coming as prophesied in the Bible. Rather, it was relating to the fact that if Jesus were to be born again as a human male, and do all those things he did the first time, after more than 2000 years of worship dedicated to his fulfillment of scriptures and the prophecy arrived as pertains to Messiah, the Jews would still reject him.
The Bible tells us we shall know the truth of peoples spirit by their fruits. He also spoke his knowledge of all things in this subject in Matthew 23:33 .
There's a 2000 article that is an excellent information resource for the sincere Christian seeker in this question. I can't post links yet but the site is a .com.
Christianthinktank. After the .com add a forward slash and: falsechrist.html
This sentence may bring it up on a search engine as well:
Good question…why should we believe Jesus was the Messiah, if He didn’t fulfill all the prophecies when He was here?
Jews don't accept Jesus because they rejected the man that was Jesus the Messiah. They'd do it again. In fact, I doubt they'd accept him arriving in the prophesied second coming. But that is spoken of in that article too. It's all incumbent on Israel. As long as they reject Christ, who was God, they are what the Bible teaches of them.
Pretty similar to what I've seen before. Take the Christian understanding of passages such as Isaiah 53, claim that Jews believe them, and say the Jews missed it. If I take the Jewish understanding of those passages and say Christians believe them then say Christians believe a lie, that would be just as disingenuous. That person is trying to use rabbinic teachings without a thimble full of understanding about them.My remarks were not at all concerning his second coming as prophesied in the Bible. Rather, it was relating to the fact that if Jesus were to be born again as a human male, and do all those things he did the first time, after more than 2000 years of worship dedicated to his fulfillment of scriptures and the prophecy arrived as pertains to Messiah, the Jews would still reject him.
The Bible tells us we shall know the truth of peoples spirit by their fruits. He also spoke his knowledge of all things in this subject in Matthew 23:33 .
There's a 2000 article that is an excellent information resource for the sincere Christian seeker in this question. I can't post links yet but the site is a .com.
Christianthinktank. After the .com add a forward slash and: falsechrist.html
This sentence may bring it up on a search engine as well:
Good question…why should we believe Jesus was the Messiah, if He didn’t fulfill all the prophecies when He was here?
Jews don't accept Jesus because they rejected the man that was Jesus the Messiah. They'd do it again. In fact, I doubt they'd accept him arriving in the prophesied second coming. But that is spoken of in that article too. It's all incumbent on Israel. As long as they reject Christ, who was God, they are what the Bible teaches of them.
As God wills. But not the whole of the Jews.How hashem is gonna convince Jews in the future to accept the new covenant is beyond me...but a remnant will be saved having seen the light of the gospel and become open to receive it in their hearts even in the most trouble of times
Pretty similar to what I've seen before. Take the Christian understanding of passages such as Isaiah 53, claim that Jews believe them, and say the Jews missed it. If I take the Jewish understanding of those passages and say Christians believe them then say Christians believe a lie, that would be just as disingenuous. That person is trying to use rabbinic teachings without a thimble full of understanding about them.
As God wills. But not the whole of the Jews.
Remnant: a part or quantity that is left after the greater part has been used, removed, or destroyed.
The childish, right back at you, would be inappropriate here.
Rather, that you continue to prove the point I made, gleaned from scripture as it were, and answer the thread question itself and just as scripture teaches, is enough to not only sustain the fact that Jesus was Messiah. But that Jesus was absolute in his testimony about the house of Israel.
Gentiles only need to keep Noahide laws according to Judaism. You'd have to give up Jesus though.Can Christianity change its worship to become Judaism without the old law customs?
Gentiles only need to keep Noahide laws according to Judaism. You'd have to give up Jesus though.
Never!!!..lol
How bout giving up the law and becoming one in Christ ...see that's better...no Jew or gentile...only family
So you would be condemned by hashem for serving Jesus and casting off Torah ?....condemned where?If you're wrong, I'd be embracing idolatry, the #1 most condemned sin in the entire Tanakh.
So you would be condemned by hashem for serving Jesus and casting off Torah ?....condemned where?
That is a great sacrifice...but if I'm right you would obtain eternal life and resurrectionI'd be cut off from Israel, cut off from my people. I would no longer be doing what was right but doing what was wrong. It's a huge risk to take when the evidence does not point to Jesus being more than a man who was crucified by the Romans.
That is a great sacrifice...but if I'm right you would obtain eternal life and resurrection
Jesus is not Baal ..soI'm sure those who worshiped Baal, the ones Elijah confronted, thought they were right too. I'll stick to the faith of my ancestors.
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