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Why Do Christians Want Creationism Taught In Public Schools?

Arikay

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Robot: I disagree, Bigotry is more than just expressing your opinion. It is the intolerance of any opposite opinions. Bill doesn't seem unwilling to listen, nor does he seem hateful or anything else.
I would suggest using the word bigot carefully as it as a non thinking buzz word, and those are always dangerous to use. Same goes for many common vocabulary.
 
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i call em like i see em

i'll repeat my questions for
bill16652


do you eat shellfish? pork?
also banned in leviticus
do you follow all of leviticus or leave out the stuff you'd rather not comply with
jesus said to sell all your belongings
did you do that yet?
 
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Lisarn: For the same reason we sit back and let germ theory or cell theory be taught to our children in school. The same reason why we need to teach the correct definition of a scientific theory (which is not a guess as many think) to our children, so they can get a good education.


Robot: You are forgetting that homosexuality is addressed in the NT as well. Even though it is only briefly addressed, it is still there. It is debatable how we should read it, but that is for another thread.

lisarn said:
Why must we sit back and let the Theory of Evolution be taught to our children in school?
 
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Robot: You are forgetting that homosexuality is addressed in the NT as well. Even though it is only briefly addressed, it is still there. It is debatable how we should read it, but that is for another thread.

my point is that people take homosexuality and the bible (although most NT passages refer to perversion) and take it as a go ahead to call gay people sinners and say they shouldn't be allowed to get married.
the same rules they apply to homosexuality being a sin they don't apply to other sins
homosexuals shouldnt get married because homosexuality is a sin
why not adulteres? also a sin?
and do you know why no one answers that question?
because they have no answers
they would deny civil liberties to homosexuals and not adulterers because it doesn't suit their agenda
that was my point
 
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lisarn said:
Why must we sit back and let the Theory of Evolution be taught to our children in school?
Why must we sit back and let the theory of gravity be taught?

Or the theory of relativity?

Or worse that very strange theory that illness and disease are caused by creatures to small to be seen by the human eye. Germ THEORY is after all only a theory.
 
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i thought i answered those questions. divorce as i pointed out is different now, go back in this thread and look at my post, dietary laws are done away with per paul and his vision for the gentiles, again go back and read my post. as far as selling all i have had much and i have had little, i havent worked in 4 years but i gave the church 2,000dollors which for me was a lot. would i do it, yes when we go back to the way the original churchs were. i hope this answers and i hope you will read my posts as i try to address the issues
 
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understand that the key to forgiveness is repentance a sincere sorrow for what we have done. since god does view homosexuality as a sin and an abomination as part of the church i cannot condone anything that would perpetuate that sin and add legitimacy to it
 
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Science education isn't about giving students belief choices. It's about presenting material that was generated via the scientific method and has held up under scrutiny. Creationism has not accomplished either one, thus it has no business in science class as an alternative to evolution.
 
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My divorce comment has more to do with why christians aren't up in arms over divorce and remarriage destroying the "sanctity" of legal marriage and marching to have them banned.

My guess as to why is because,
1) It is not a hot issue that has been over hyped
2) people are used to it, and all they really fear is change (take those that claim they want to restore the US to its foundation by keeping Under God in the pledge).
3) Its easier to attack others than deal with yourself.
 
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Err...what does same-sex marriage have to do with creationsim in public schools!?!
 
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lisarn said:
Why must we sit back and let the Theory of Evolution be taught to our children in school?

For the same reason we teach our children the Theory of Gravity or the Theory of Relativity:

from Dictionary.com

the·o·ry
  1. A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
  2. The branch of a science or art consisting of its explanatory statements, accepted principles, and methods of analysis, as opposed to practice: a fine musician who had never studied theory.
  3. A set of theorems that constitute a systematic view of a branch of mathematics.
  4. Abstract reasoning; speculation: a decision based on experience rather than theory.
  5. A belief or principle that guides action or assists comprehension or judgment: staked out the house on the theory that criminals usually return to the scene of the crime.
  6. An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture.
I realize that some people can't seem to accept any definition except #6 when it applies to evolution....it's okay if it's Gravity or Germs or Cells....just not evolution. double-standard, anyone? Or, is the Theory of Gravity not accepted by Creationists either?
 
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The existence of gravity, germs and cells no linger fall into the area of "theory" because we have have repeatable, testable evidence of their existence.

The existence of gravity is supported by the "Law of gravity" which can be repeatably shown to be an attraction betwenn tow bodies based solely on their masses. This attraction can be calculated matematically and tested over and over again, always yielding the same results.

The theory of germs and cells was proven with the advent of the microscope, and not only their existence, but their vast complexity was further uncovered by the electron microscope.

This is not the case for the theory of evolution. Yes we see similarities within phyla, across phyla and across species. We have hypothesized that these similarities might be the result of gradual or spontaneous changes as a result of changes in environment. However, there are many areas of evidence that refute this hypothesis as well that have already been mentioned in this thread.

Unlike gravity, germs and cells, we have yet to actually see hard evidence of "evolution" or to be able to repeatably test the hypotheses. We have been able to cause the production some amino acids in a very controlled environment, but not the right kinds, in the right combination and not in any environment that mimics any of the scientifically assumed early Earth atmospheres. We have not encountered any "beneficial" mutations, whereby new information is added to the DNA of an organism. Instead, through natural selection, we see LOSS of information over time. We see species going into extenction, but never a new species coming into existence.

Where we once thought that the DNA information was mostly composed of large areas of uncoded "junk" DNA, recent discoveries now show that those areas are filled with introns and telomeres, that act as spaces, tabs and punctuation and are necessary for the proper replication process.

Also, based on recent appraisal of the fossil record, only about 0.1% of the assumed fossil record has been actually found. When this is displayed graphically, it becomes very apparent that the fossil record is of little support for the evolutionary hypothosese.

The fact that change, or evolution, occurs WITHIN species (micro-evolution) has never been disputed and has been verified through application of Mendel's Law which addresses the mathematical limits of variations that can be expected to be found within a species.

Because of the complexity of even the simplest life-forms, the complexity of DNA and accuracy of the DNA replication process, the sudden appearance of major fully evolved life-forms and the evidence loss rather than gain of DNA information over time, I am far more inclined toward the theory of "Intelligent Design", than toward the theory of evolution.

"Intelligent Design" does not purport to answer the question of "who", but does offer a possible "how" for the existence of life on Earth. It supports the classification of life based on common design and DNA information, the fossil record, the scientific evidence that life could not have developed gradually in early Earth atmosphere, but appeared all at once, fully developed, capable of replication and procreation, with balance and purpose.

I am not in favor of teaching that a particular god, whether he be Hebrew, Greek or Hindu, created life in seven days or seventy million years, but I am in favor of teaching the strengths and weaknesses of theories with an open mind.

Son-cerely,
Nate
 
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