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In so many ways, lol...we live under Grace now, not under the Law. We were told to destroy anything that could turn us away from God in the Old Testament, but the New Testament tells us we don't have to anymore, and to share this 'good news' with themMylinkay Asdara said:Because I think it's illegal to kill us
LastMaxim said:...... It matters not to Him whether or not 'magic' is involved, only that worship of something (one) other than Him is taking place. And it is not for His benefit that He says this, but for those who chose to disobey Him, and chose another way, to their own detriment, for He says it will ultimately lead to permanent separation from Him...
Are you insenuating herbal medicine, aromatheropy,ALW said:So, are you saying it is okay for a person who worships the Christian God, was baptised (Catholic), Believes Jesus is the son of God to do types of witchcraft such as herbal medicine, aromatheropy, and meditation?
Just need to clarify, because that's how I read it.
Smilin said:Are you insenuating herbal medicine, aromatheropy,
and meditation are witchcraft?
...herbal medicine, etc, no...God gave us things like this, for our health...but if someone were to worship them, or put them before GodALW said:So, are you saying it is okay for a person who worships the Christian God, was baptised (Catholic), Believes Jesus is the son of God to do types of witchcraft such as herbal medicine, aromatheropy, and meditation?
Just need to clarify, because that's how I read it.
ALW said:Simply, yeap.
Forms of Herbal medicine and aromatheropy are based on elemental properties and some forms have roots in witchcraft.
Meditation can include out-of-body experiances or interactions with animals or people here or moved on.
Do you disagree?
I keep waiting for that myself from both sides of this argument. Just curious more than anything.Smilin said:BTW..how do you define 'witchcraft precisely'?
I'm not saying wiccans are evil, and I'm sure your intentions may be good, but casting spells for whatever reason or purpose and calling on other spirits for help is what God of the Bible tells us not to do. How can your god be the same as my God when you break so many of my God's commandments in your practice and form of worship?StarrShadowfyre said:Lilangelheart,
Wiccans are not evil we worship the same Almighty entity that you do. You prefer to call this Almighty entity God and Wiccan's call this Almighty entity God (male aspects of the Almighty entity) and Goddess (Female aspects of the Almighty entity). We all worship the same Almighty Entity although we do this differently based on the beliefs we have chosen to follow. You pray to God through your prayers, and we pray to God/Goddess through spells which are our version of prayers. So let's just say someone is sick and we wish for them to get better you would pray to God and ask for this I would pray to God/Goddess and ask for this also by performing a spell (which shows my intent for the person to get better) It may include lighting candles, using herbs, it may be through meditation by sending out our own positive energy to the person that is sick to aid them in getting better. Some of us may use the aid of other Deities much in the same way that those of the Catholic faith use the aid of Saints. Brightest Blessings,
Starr
Shekinahs said:
Ok, just for understanding purposes where do you get your understanding of what is witchcraft? How would you know you were or were not doing witchcraft? Actually anybody can answer this question on their own behalf.
~ShekinahMoon~
Smilin said:ANNNDDDD Santa Clause visits once a year.
(this year I hope I get a motorcycle).
And just because he is so generous with his
gift giving, his habitual controlled crash landings
on our rooftops does not make him good or harmless.
LastMaxim said:In so many ways, lol...we live under Grace now, not under the Law. We were told to destroy anything that could turn us away from God in the Old Testament, but the New Testament tells us we don't have to anymore, and to share this 'good news' with them....
StarrShadowfyre said:LastMaxim states: In so many ways, lol...we live under Grace now, not under the Law. We were told to destroy anything that could turn us away from God in the Old Testament, but the New Testament tells us we don't have to anymore, and to share this 'good news' with them ....
And you were also told in the Old Testament Thou Shalt not Kill Exodus 20:13 It does not say You can kill in the name of God only it says Thou shalt not Kill. So would this be considered one of the many disrepencies that is found in the bible (And there are many)
Blessings, Starr
lilangelheart said:That's referring to the spilling of innocent blood.
Yes I know what magick is because I study it. I'm just curious for those who do not study or have studied magick (nope not Harry Potter or Charmed) how do they know what magick is? People say divination is magick. Ok, how does one know exactly what that is? Can someone define diviniation or spell and not plop down some cut and paste from an online dictionary. That's third person. And this is to those who have not studied magick. So no ex-witches helping people out.lilangelheart said:Well, I do what the Bible tells me to do and what I do is not defined as witchcraft.
Besides, you yourself define what you are doing as witchcraft and spells.
Can someone define diviniation or spell and not plop down some cut and paste from an online dictionary.
LOL..try Thou shalt not Murder...StarrShadowfyre said:LastMaxim states: In so many ways, lol...we live under Grace now, not under the Law. We were told to destroy anything that could turn us away from God in the Old Testament, but the New Testament tells us we don't have to anymore, and to share this 'good news' with them ....
And you were also told in the Old Testament Thou Shalt not Kill Exodus 20:13 It does not say You can kill in the name of God only it says Thou shalt not Kill. So would this be considered one of the many disrepencies that is found in the bible (And there are many)
Blessings, Starr
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