Why do Christians hate swearing in music?

[philN]

I have heard many good things about Derek Webb, but I haven't heard any of his solo stuff. I've been meaning to give him a listen for a while now; I'll have to make a better effort to actually do it now.

 

[Andyk1987]

You can listen to the music, but you dont have to hear the swearing you can ignore it.

 

[Blackmarch]

You can listen to the music, but you dont have to hear the swearing you can ignore it.

Tried that, doesn't work too well.

 

[eternal_flame_1988]

Tried that, doesn't work too well.

Yeah, i know what you mean...when i listen to songs that have swearing in them...i always manage to hear every single swear word in them as if they are emphasized.

 

[philN]

and that makes it wrong to listen to because...?

 

[eternal_flame_1988]

and that makes it wrong to listen to because...?

swearing is not a habit i want to get into... for one thing it isn't polite..and for another, it is crude and should have no place in society.

 

[GreenDragon]

swearing is not a habit i want to get into... for one thing it isn't polite..and for another, it is crude and should have no place in society.

...and why not?

 

[Blackmarch]

...and why not?

Well, there is probably a goal of becoming more like Christ as for a personal reason.

Also a lot of swearing usually carries connotations that involve breaking certain commandments... of things that really don't help the society.
That and/or of having been commanded not to take the Lord's name in vain.

 

[ASLER86]

Well, there is probably a goal of becoming more like Christ as for a personal reason.

Also a lot of swearing usually carries connotations that involve breaking certain commandments... of things that really don't help the society.
That and/or of having been commanded not to take the Lord's name in vain.

Yeah, for example the real meanings of the swear words is....you can fill in the blanks, I'm sure all of you know the answers for that.

 

[GreenDragon]

Well, there is probably a goal of becoming more like Christ as for a personal reason.

Also a lot of swearing usually carries connotations that involve breaking certain commandments... of things that really don't help the society.
That and/or of having been commanded not to take the Lord's name in vain.

Not all "cuss" words are variations of GD though.

 

[Blackmarch]

no it seems that that they tend to be one of 4 things

1)God
2)Connotation of body emissions
3)have sexual connotations
4)racial slur or something similar.

none of which is really pleasant and uplifting.

 

[lovechild05]

Hey y'all... stil nu 2 dis gr8 forum site. Gettin' da hang of it...

Let me start by quoting this verse.: "Be ye holy, for I am holy." 1 Peter 1:16...

What you listen to as a Christian eventually influences how you think and how you talk. It's what comes out of your mouth eventually that makes one (i.e. within the Christian race) unholy... not what you eat or drink or do as such...

God is holy, and He says in His word we ought'a be holly too. Now imagine God swearing..... Unimaginable ain't it??? That's right. I'm a Born-Again Christian and I believe that the conduct and mannerism of Christians should be like that of Christ. After all, that's why Christians call themselves/are called the way they are... Christ-like synomymous with Christianity.

Listening to music is what I do. Almost any kind of music... as long as it's nice to me fo sho! But indulging in things that defame the character of Christ in me I should abtain from. The list is massively long and that includes listening to music that has a lot of swearing in it...

There's truly a lot to be said about this topic fa sho!!!

 

[Shalia]

i don't have a problem with "swearing" or "cussing". i think the whole thing is rediculous. I apologize on behalf of all the christians that get annoying on this point.

Please don't apologize for me. I reserve the right to get "annoying" if I so choose. Instead, I just use the power of my index finger and change the station.

I make no apologies for my dislike of swearing.

 

[lovechild05]

See... adding on what I said earlier on... I think it's a pre-requisite for Christians to be very uncomfortable with sin and abstain/resist it at all costs! Tell me if I'm talkin a whole lot'a ****?!!!??!

 

[lovechild05]

See, there are some things that are not said in t he Bible, the reason why Jesus sent His Holy Spirit down on earth to "fill in the gaps"... if you know what I mean?

So, in other words, excuses like, '..it doesn't say in the Bible don't listen to swearing music...' is clearly from somebody whom the Bible has no authority in his/her life or is not used as the 'principle-directory' for their lives.... Basically, you can't argue with such people... I'm sorry, really....

 

[philN]

Why wouldn't God swear? Because He is afraid of offending people? Jesus called the pharisees a brood of vipers. I think it's safe to say that that was offensive. Granted, Jesus chose words much more carefully than most people do, but still.

Also, a poster above said that certain words are not uplifting. It's a nice straw man, but no one is saying that all words are appropriate at all times to say anyway you want. But in certain contexts certain words that have been deemed "evil" would be entirely appropriate. A few years ago I worked on a family friend's farm for a few weeks. When they wanted me to go out and shovel cow poop, they said exactly what they meant --except they didn't say poop. If the two words mean the same thing, were they wrong to call [poop] what it is?

One of the basic laws of logic is the Law of Identity. It states that something that is true is universally true and if something is false it is universally false. Are words that we deem profane universally deemed profane? No. So it would follow that maybe these words aren't as inherently evil as everyone seems to make them out to be.

 

[lovechild05]

Why wouldn't God swear? Because He is afraid of offending people? Jesus called the pharisees a brood of vipers. I think it's safe to say that that was offensive. Granted, Jesus chose words much more carefully than most people do, but still.

Also, a poster above said that certain words are not uplifting. It's a nice straw man, but no one is saying that all words are appropriate at all times to say anyway you want. But in certain contexts certain words that have been deemed "evil" would be entirely appropriate. A few years ago I worked on a family friend's farm for a few weeks. When they wanted me to go out and shovel cow poop, they said exactly what they meant --except they didn't say poop. If the two words mean the same thing, were they wrong to call [poop] what it is?

One of the basic laws of logic is the Law of Identity. It states that something that is true is universally true and if something is false it is universally false. Are words that we deem profane universally deemed profane? No. So it would follow that maybe these words aren't as inherently evil as everyone seems to make them out to be.

Alright, that's a very good point. Culture had to be revisited ultimately. And yes, there are some words that we Christians use which if, directly converted to other languages or their other meaning would seem somehow. And yes, there are some words which are (and should be deemed) evil periord.

I know some Christians can be overly sensitive to a point of lashing on some of us severe boredom... But like everyone in this planet, they are entitled to their beliefs and preferences and I think it should just be fair for everybody to be given a chance to express themselves the way they want (BUT out of respect to other people's feelings and beliefs)...


Nuff said.....

 

[philN]

I think you are missing part of the point: words cannot be evil. They are words. They can mean bad things and they can be used in wrong ways, but these words in and of themselves are not evil. How can something that does not itself have the ability to sin be evil?

 

[Seeking...]

Music - like any other art form - is an expression of life as experienced by the songwriter/musician. This means that meaningful songs about pain, poverty, civil unrest and lots of other difficult subjects may contain strong language to jar and perhaps even shock the audience into reflectiona and/or action. I don't see what is wrong with that.

Vulgar words can be put to meaningful use. To assume that the appearance of a curse word invalidates the beauty or meaning of a song is to display immaturity and ignorance IMHO.

 

[philN]

Well said.