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...the work of God, it does not fail.
The actual salvation that is promised, from Yahweh God, is the work of God, through the righteous life of Christ through his works and atoning sacrifice, and work of his Spirit in believers, from God's grace, according to the essential faith of salvation with which believers respond to the revelation for it given to them. As it is the work of God, it does not fail.
Passages speaking of salvation for all men are speaking of gospel salvation to be made available for any of all nationalities. And what you suggest makes no sense indeed does not make sense, with your interpretation. But Hebrews, whether from Paul or not, just like other epistles, is written to assemblies of believers, and as it is with all assemblies, there may be some there with some belief, but not that essential faith of salvation, and so it is sinful, unbelieving hearts that turn away from God, this is not said to happen with those saved according to the essential faith, that is the work of God, but all in an assembly should make sure of their convictions, so true believers can be assured, and those who are not can be aware of it and truly come to salvation rather than hardening and turning away from God's grace. And good works, though not saving any, do accompany the believers of the true essential faith.
Yes, Christ universally saved the entire race from the curse of the law....That work is complete - it is perfect - it did not fail, but you can reject that truth. God will not force your will. You must chose to remain in Him by faith.
Saving faith is keeping your faith in Christ. It's choice. I wish that you wouldn't make it so complicated.
Repeating something doesn't make it true. God has saved all men in Christ Jesus, but not all will be saved. Why? Unbelief. Otherwise all those hundreds of warnings not to give up one's faith are meaningless and you end up throwing out most of the NT.There is one thing that we can be sure of. If God calls a person to salvation that person is saved.
Do you have a problem addressing all of my post?
Brother they did you a favor!Guys, I've just learned from a moderator that I can't debate against Baptist doctrines. So, I guess that's it. Of course I think that is dangerous position...the Bible should be the final word...not a denomination. My two cents...
Guys, I've just learned from a moderator that I can't debate against Baptist doctrines. So, I guess that's it. Of course I think that is dangerous position...the Bible should be the final word...not a denomination. My two cents...
I guess if any Baptist wishes to debate the issue of the immortality of the soul then you'll have to go here: http://www.christianforums.com/t7728132/ because I am not allowed to go against Baptist theology here.
There's nothing to address. The Bible is clear that we are once saved always saved as long as our faith remains in Christ.
I see no reason to debate what every Christian, if he is a Christian, believes. The immortality of the soul is what the Bible is all about.
Because according to Baptists you can get saved and do whatever you want do from there and never lose your salvation. We as Mormons believe that is not the case.
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