Why do atheists care about a Christian forum?

[Autumnleaf]

I don't care about dogs or the people who like them so I don't go to such forums. I don't feel the need to tell dog lovers that I don't share their zeal. Why do atheists feel like they have to come to a Christian forum and debate?

 

[platzapS]

Religion is interesting and controversial (much more so than dog ownership). Christianity is the main religion in our culture, and it's fun to debate and discuss and learn about it.

 

[Autumnleaf]

Religion is interesting and controversial (much more so than dog ownership). Christianity is the main religion in our culture, and it's fun to debate and discuss and learn about it.

But if you have made your choice about it what do you care what other people think?

 

[Yaacoviah]

I don't think it's what people think, it's how they think.

 

[Washington]

But if you have made your choice about it what do you care what other people think?

As I see it, and I'm not an atheist, it's not so much what they think, but the fact that they are willing to defend it. Normally, this wouldn't mean diddly if it were some other subject, but because atheists tend to regard religious faith---Christianity in particular--- as rather silly, or stupid, or a psychological prop to fears (the security blanket thing) or irrational, or maybe a combination of these, they find prodding Christians into defending such an animal to be an entertaining pastime. Simply consider the many claims made by Christians that fly in the face of science, such as an earth no more than 6,000 years old; or logic, such as a loving god who is the self proclaimed creator of evil. Of course, finding entertainment in the perceived shortcomings of others may be slightly daft, but hey, in this world everyone needs a smile or two now and then.

On the other hand, why do the faithful here bother to argue with atheists when they must realize they have no better chance of converting them to their faith than does the atheists have in getting them to drop theirs? I doubt it's for entertainment; so many Christians grow quite serious and somber in their exchanges, sometimes falling back on scripture to "prove" a point, which, of course, is lost on the head-shaking atheist.

 

[Verv]

It is just fun to debate people.

I am not an atheist, by the way, I am a Christian. I would not ever come to these forums if it were not for the atheists (though maybe occasionally to talk a little theology, perhaps).

My life is centered in opposition to this decadent world and waging a war against the moral looseness of our times.

It is not so important to me that I debate religion... Religion is a very personal view... But rather, I stand against all liberalism in all forms.

Atheism is not inherently liberal. I do not have a large problem with it and it is between God and themselves, but the pure and utter moral relativity of this section of the forums is so amazing it is like a golden pot of Evil.

Evil is having no standards, my friend. Never forget that. Evil is self service. Satan is self service.

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[ReverendDG]

I don't care about dogs or the people who like them so I don't go to such forums. I don't feel the need to tell dog lovers that I don't share their zeal. Why do atheists feel like they have to come to a Christian forum and debate?

the difference is, dog lovers don't think they have the right to impose their love of dogs over cats on the rest of the world.
christians seem to think they have a right to impose what they feel is right on the rest of the world.
also there seems to be a large loud group of christians who feel they can dismiss science and reason simply because of their faith in their god.

i'm not an atheist i'm a deist, though it seems a lot of folks can't get past the fact that i don't believe in an personal god, so they claim deism isn't theism

until people realize that science and reason brought us to the point we are at and should be supported, i will keep debating christians

 

[SallyNow]

Well, I willinginly read things written by atheists because I want to understand and learn why and how they think. It's not ridicule them or bug them. A lot of atheists seem to be the same way. They just want to learn, or maybe they just enjoy talking about things and having the ability to write out there whole thought rather than being interupted by Mr. Talksalotbutneverlistensandalwaysinterupts (there's one at every dinner party.)

That being said, there are people in every group that enjoy being mean, that enjoy tearing down other people. Some people just seem to think it's a fun pastime. Those people, though, aren't much more grown up than those kids who used to pass around mean rumours about others or who liked to scare others into thinking that so-and-so is this-and-that and therefore him-and-her shouldn't be friends with so-and-so anymore.

 

[Washington]

It is just fun to debate people.

I am not an atheist, by the way, I am a Christian. I would not ever come to these forums if it were not for the atheists (though maybe occasionally to talk a little theology, perhaps).

My life is centered in opposition to this decadent world and waging a war against the moral looseness of our times.

It is not so important to me that I debate religion... Religion is a very personal view... But rather, I stand against all liberalism in all forms.

Atheism is not inherently liberal. I do not have a large problem with it and it is between God and themselves, but the pure and utter moral relativity of this section of the forums is so amazing it is like a golden pot of Evil.

Evil is having no standards, my friend. Never forget that. Evil is self service. Satan is self service.

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So you come to fight atheists. That's interesting in light of what your leader has said.

Matt 5:44, "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;"
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And

In Matt 5:39, "But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."
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But I guess the Bible allows one to pick and choose which parts to obey.

 

[Verv]

So you come to fight atheists. That's interesting in light of what your leader has said.

Matt 5:44, "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;"
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And

In Matt 5:39, "But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."
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But I guess the Bible allows one to pick and choose which parts to obey.

I am not physically fighting anyone and I do love my enemies... I do not feel love, but intellectually I try to grow in that direction.

In fact, emotionally I really feel it is difficult to be a Christian. It is a great challenge.

But I do feel good whenever I feel the call to debate, to argue, to feel, to think; I love to wage this, I love the argumentation. It is absolutely terrific.

If you really think you can prove the Bible says "You cannot argue against other people" you really ought to go elsewhere.

 

[quatona]

It is just fun to debate people.

I am not an atheist, by the way, I am a Christian. I would not ever come to these forums if it were not for the atheists (though maybe occasionally to talk a little theology, perhaps).

My life is centered in opposition to this decadent world and waging a war against the moral looseness of our times.

It is not so important to me that I debate religion... Religion is a very personal view... But rather, I stand against all liberalism in all forms.

Atheism is not inherently liberal. I do not have a large problem with it and it is between God and themselves, but the pure and utter moral relativity of this section of the forums is so amazing it is like a golden pot of Evil.

Evil is having no standards, my friend. Never forget that. Evil is self service. Satan is self service.

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I can feel for you and your desire that everone shares your ethical ideas. I, too, like the idea that everyone shares mine.

However, your set of ethical ideas is just another one of those that make this section appear a place of ethical/moral relativity.

The conclusion "people have different ethical standards therefore they have no standards at all"
a. is not only a non-sequitur but patently false
b. hits you in the back just as everybody else.

 

[quatona]

I don't care about dogs or the people who like them so I don't go to such forums. I don't feel the need to tell dog lovers that I don't share their zeal. Why do atheists feel like they have to come to a Christian forum and debate?

Well, you need people who disagree and ask critical question for performing Christian apologetics, don´t you?
Just consider my participation a selfless service. Somebody has to do it.

 

[cantata]

I don't care about dogs or the people who like them so I don't go to such forums. I don't feel the need to tell dog lovers that I don't share their zeal. Why do atheists feel like they have to come to a Christian forum and debate?

I'm doing a philosophy and theology degree.

 

[Fin12]

We do it becuase it's like mental sparring, it allows you to gain a better grasp of other people opinions and integrate them into your own. It allows a better spiritual understanding of the world. It strengthens our reasoning skills.

And it's fun.

Why the hell shouldn't we debate?

 

[SallyNow]

I'm doing a philosophy and theology degree.

But that's impossible! Atheists think they know everything! That they don't have anything to learn from philosophy or history or theology! That their minds have been expanded by LSD, LBJ, MSG to the point of not needing any more expansion!

/sarcasm-by-overtiredness off

 

[cantata]

But that's impossible! Atheists think they know everything! That they don't have anything to learn from philosophy or history or theology! That their minds have been expanded by LSD, LBJ, MSG to the point of not needing any more expansion!

/sarcasm-by-overtiredness off

Well, I'm not actually doing any *work* for my degree. I just spout my own opinions as if they were received wisdom.



Seriously, Christian Forums was hugely helpful for my Christian Moral Reasoning paper last year. I love it here.

 

[Lynden1000]

I don't care about dogs or the people who like them so I don't go to such forums. I don't feel the need to tell dog lovers that I don't share their zeal. Why do atheists feel like they have to come to a Christian forum and debate?

Why do creationists go to evolution forums?

Why do Christians go to jewish or muslim forums?

It's human nature that when you think people are very wrong about something, you want to set them straight.

 

[Tiberius]

I don't care about dogs or the people who like them so I don't go to such forums. I don't feel the need to tell dog lovers that I don't share their zeal. Why do atheists feel like they have to come to a Christian forum and debate?

If you liked dogs would you go to a dog forum? If you liked dogs but didn't have a pet dog, would you go to dog forums? of course. Can can go to a dog forum without owning a dog.

Likewise, a person can come to a Christian forum without needing to be a Christian.

 

[WatersMoon110]

I don't care about dogs or the people who like them so I don't go to such forums. I don't feel the need to tell dog lovers that I don't share their zeal. Why do atheists feel like they have to come to a Christian forum and debate?

This is a Fundamentalist Christian forum that allows non-Christians and non-Fundamentalist Christians the option to join. Why does it surprise you that people are willing take that option?

This, however, is a forum open to all members for debating about ethics and morality. Obviously, people who oppose Fundamentalist beliefs and people who have very strong Fundamentalist beliefs are often going to debate each other in here. Why shouldn't we, given that this very board was intended for that very thing.

You might as well ask why Christian Forums has the rules it does, since that is what allows non-Christians and non-Fundamentalist Christians to come here.

 

[PsychMJC]

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Who is this mystical "They"? Liberals? Athiests? Agnostics? Mormons?
I'd gladly be evil in your eyes..

But then again, you are evil in mine.. so I guess we are even.

If you don't want to have conversations like those that happen on this forum, perhaps you should stay in the Christians Only section. I was under the impression that I was welcome here..