Why do animals do suffer?

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RaymondG said:

Once we learn how to pray, nothing will be impossible. And the thought of hearing "NO" will cease.....which, in turn, will make us more cautious and attentive to the words of God when asking for anything.......because we will know that we will have the deal with the consequences of our prayers, whether good or bad, and there is no "filter", blocking bad prayers and letting through good ones (a thought process, that has many people not understanding why they are blessed or cursed)....

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I don't think I will ever be so mature and smart that I can know all the consequences. Therefore, I prefer to ask God to give me, and others I pray for, what is His will, just as Jesus did.

bangmegafan said:

Kindly don't think I'm not strong believer of Jesus for these kind of questions

I'm strong in faith but I don't have anyone to ask these questions. That is why I'm asking in this platform

My questions:

1. Jesus died for our sins and we are healed with Jesus wonds. Then why do animals suffer when they can't commit any sin?

2. When Lord take care of every creature why do animals suffer

3. Heaven and hell is only place for humans but not animals?

PS: I have posted this thread after seeing an autistic dog which is roaming on street without any purpose..It's going here and there.. My heart is broken after seeing that.. I cried unto God in my prayer to cure that dog

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Everything on Earth suffers because of our sin in the Garden, since we were created to be the stewards, to insure their safety and wellbeing. When we failed, they failed. We suffer, they suffer. But a New Earth is coming.

Hank77 said:

I don't think I will ever be so mature and smart that I can know all the consequences. Therefore, I prefer to ask God to give me, and others I pray for, what is His will, just as Jesus did.

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You are right, you wont be. So you will be like a leaf, blowing in the direction of the prayers of the just and the unjust....and blaming your blessings and curses on them as well.(or maybe God and the devil).

What I'm saying is for those willing to DO what Jesus said, and not just believe it. Whose willing to walk through the valleys of shadows of death, without fear. Those not afraid to fall while reaching for the prize. The way is narrow, and few there be that find it. Few there by that look for it.

RaymondG said:

These are good words to speak to a crowd to keep them faithful to a doctrine. The bible states that anything asked in His name shall be given. When this fails, you can state what you just said as a reason for failure while keeping the crowd believing all the other parts of the doctrine. The most successful doctrines are the ones you cant verify until you are dead..... For the ones that can be verified now.....excuses must be made for failure if the doctrine is not truth. Truth never fails

Tell me, do you see selfishness in this statement: I believe in you Jesus, Please save ME from Hell, and I will do all that is written in the bible to save MYSELF from Hell?

How about this: Lord I feel sick, Please heal ME so I don't feel sick anymore?

Can you give me a prayer that you can pray for yourself that wont fit into your idea of selfish?

"Ask and you shall receive that your JOY may be full" Should this be taken out the bible? since asking for something, for myself or others, simple because it makes me fill joy, sounds selfish?

I assure you, all prayers are answered....most don't know how to pray, however.....and even more are too proud to ask " Teach us how to pray, Father" They would rather believe they are doing it right and give reasons, outside of themselves, for failure.

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Raymond,
You are taking the extreme swing of the pendulum. God can not answer prayers that violate his character. God will not answer prayers of the wicked, that is, unregenerate apart from prayers that will lead them to Christ. God can not answer prayers made in unbelief. Nor will he answer prayers where the responsibility has been given to us. You can not pray a person to be saved. We have been given the responsibility to speak the Gospel to them.

If we mean by "answer prayer" in the sense of getting what we ask as stated above. He does answer prayer in saying No and not yet.

Everything you listed above is in the realm of abiding in Christ. All prayers in Christ are answered. My response is to your blanket statement, which is not true as a blanket statement.

Romans 8
For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. 20For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21thath the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.

22We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.

3. Where does it say that in the Bible?
Isaiah 11
6The wolf will live with the lamb,

the leopard will lie down with the goat,

the calf and the lion and the yearlinga together;

and a little child will lead them.

7The cow will feed with the bear,

their young will lie down together,

and the lion will eat straw like the ox.

8The infant will play near the cobra’s den,

and the young child will put its hand into the viper’s nest.

9They will neither harm nor destroy

on all my holy mountain,

for the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the Lord

as the waters cover the sea.

bangmegafan said:

Kindly don't think I'm not strong believer of Jesus for these kind of questions

I'm strong in faith but I don't have anyone to ask these questions. That is why I'm asking in this platform

My questions:

1. Jesus died for our sins and we are healed with Jesus wonds. Then why do animals suffer when they can't commit any sin?

2. When Lord take care of every creature why do animals suffer

3. Heaven and hell is only place for humans but not animals?

PS: I have posted this thread after seeing an autistic dog which is roaming on street without any purpose..It's going here and there.. My heart is broken after seeing that.. I cried unto God in my prayer to cure that dog

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking these sorts of questions and the issue of suffering is one that countless Christians have pondered over the centuries. In fact, I think it is feeling like you can't ask these types of questions, that can lead to nagging doubts, which leads to a weaker faith than someone who has asked these questions and had them answered.

People with leprosy often have missing or damage limbs and in Philip Yancey's book The Gift of Pain, it talks about Dr. Paul Brand's work with leprosy patients in India and how he discovered that this damage was not directly caused by the disease itself. Rather, leprosy is a nerve degenerative disorder that destroys the nerve endings in our limbs, which causes people not to feel pain, and the damage is unintentionally self-inflicted because they are not able to feel pain. For example, if a child were to touch a hot stove, then pain would tell them to yank their hand back, but if they felt no pain telling them to do that, then they could end up giving themselves severe burns without even realizing it. Or if someone were walking a long distance, blisters in our feet would tell us that we need to rest, but if left untreated could lead to severe or permanent damage. The same goes with someone continuing to walk without realizing that their foot is broken. Or if someone were to try to open up a door with a rusty handle, they could apply enough force to cause damage to their hand without realizing it. So while none of us wants to see a child in pain, I think it is better for them to have the ability to suffer pain than to not have that ability. It should be easy to see how this same principle applies to animals.

This is what I was taught to do in my relationship with Jesus God Holy Spirit and my Heavenly Mother Mary over past recent years with Jesus taking out of pain immediately every animal injured, healing others immediately and others healed without operations.

I immerse their heart and soul in Jesus Holy Wounds offering up their sufferings for The Holy Souls in Purgatory and souls on their way to eternal damnation while praying for the dog, roo, wombat, cow, lamb, sheep, cat, bird, any animal or creature of God our Heavenly Father's to be healed and/or die quickly in Jesus Holy Will with Holy Spirit and my Blessed Virgin Mother Marys Holy intercession and every time Jesus does this - in His Holy Will - not my earthly will.

Trusting completely in Jesus literally, spiritually, completely.

Whom could never trust in Jesus when Jesus suffered indescribably and died for us and Jesus prayed and talked to God our Heavenly Father seeing Him.

God our Heavenly Father and Creator so Loves His Animals and Creatures that He provides for them most greatly despite droughts and weather conditions; it is our task to pray for them regularly while Loving and trusting Jesus - leaving the rest to Jesus God Holy Spirit and Holy Mother Mary. The most wonderful Holy Miracles (to us) Jesus has Gifted with Holy Spirit and Holy Mother Mary for all animals and creatures over many recent years after praying to God His Divine Mercy Chaplet, Holy Wound Chaplet and The Most Holy Rosary for every one of Gods animals and creatures not prolonged suffering with so many healings.

I cannot say on here what I know in my heart from Jesus God Holy Spirit and Holy Mother Mary nor what I have seen - as it is probably in violation of rules - just trust in Jesus praying for all of Gods animals and creatures to Jesus Holy Spirit and Holy Mother Mary - and if you love and trust Jesus you wont be disappointed in His Holy Will for His Animals and Creatures Loved greatly by God.