Why do all believers connected with "tongues".....

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The point was made in Romans 11 to the wild olive branches that they better take care lest they get ripped out like the natural branches were.

It was CONDITIONAL - natural branches could be grafted back in if they remained not in unbelief.

Wild branches shouldn't boast, their situation was CONDITIONAL also.

 

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The OP definitely makes a statement that is without basis.

It is like an OP that asks "why is a raven like a writing desk?"

Absurd - a raven is NOT like a writing desk -

 

[Behold]

For 2000 years, natural branches have been kept grafted out. IOW, it is insane to compare the Jews gifts and calling to be irrevocable - unbelieving natural olive branches were ripped out, and they are still out. Doesn't sound much like ETERNAL SECURITY to me - becoming enemies of the cross.

Again, I wonder if there is a Calvinist who does NOT believe in OSAS - there may be, since Calvinists shed "points" like changing clothes, 5-point, 4-point, 3-point - so any minute a Calvie May come into the thread and say "I am not OSAS"

Spend less time with symbolic verses and more time trying to understand why Eternal Life is Eternal.

 

[Behold]

The OP definitely makes a statement that is without basis.

It is like an OP that asks "why is a raven like a writing desk?"

Absurd - a raven is NOT like a writing desk -

My Basis is personal experience.
Many years on worldwife forums, since 2004, years in the ministry, and many years dealing with cross rejecting heretics. since '1988.

A person who thinks they can lose their salvation, will live their entire life in that mind set.
Its spiritual poison, and its created by carnal self righteous cross rejecting people who teach this Godless lie.

"oh i believe that Jesus saves me....but then, let me show you all i have to do or not do to keep from going to hell"....
THATS NOT FAITH IN CHRIST. And to teach this depravity, is to try to talk someone OUT of faith in Christ.
That is the Devil's work.

 

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Guffaw !!

 

[Behold]

Guffaw !!

"Not by works of righteousness that we have done.....but according to God's mercy HE saved us."

 

[Silly Uncle Wayne]

"Not by works of righteousness that we have done.....but according to God's mercy HE saved us."

" ...faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead."

 

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John 6:29

"This is the work of God, that ye believe on Him whom He hath sent."

So faith - believing - is a work after all.

 

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Did Luther speak out of school to add "alone" to the phrase we are "saved by faith"?

Does THE BIBLE have "alone" there?

 

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Well, Luther's German Bible did have ALONE put in

 

[Behold]

" ...faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead."

Think of like this..
Are you born again?
Then that is a specific type of faith. You gave it to God, He took it...Its now a completed salvation because you are "justified by your faith"....ONCE.....You are saved ONCE....
How do you know? You are born again....Thats HOW you know that God has received your faith ONCE to then TAKE YOU as HIS SON forever.

Now, live your life out as His Son. Have you been perfect? What does that even mean?
Did God say......Ok sillyunclewayne....now remember, you can't ever stop trying to be good, as if you do, hell awaits.
No, He never told that to you, so why do you accuse Him of that lie on a public forum?

Now lets look at your bumper sticker. "dead faith". This just means that you are not engaged in a hearty productive discipleship. You are probably backslidden..

Here is how to get yourself out of the "dead faith", = i lost my salvation heretic's mental trap you are in..
Just realize that dead faith does not mean dead Salvation.
Is Jesus's RISEN? Is the Cross REAL? That is SALVATION....
So, dont confuse lazy discipleship, or any discipleship that you may perform better one year then the next, with what Jesus did on the Cross that SAVED YOU and KEEPS YOU SAVED.
Do not confuse Salvation with Discipleship.
Many do.

 

[Silly Uncle Wayne]

Now, live your life out as His Son. Have you been perfect? What does that even mean?
Did God say......Ok sillyunclewayne....now remember, you can't ever stop trying to be good, as if you do, hell awaits.
No, He never told that to you, so why do you accuse Him of that lie on a public forum?

I didn't accuse God of any such lie. I quoted scripture... which basically means that you are accusing the Bible of lying... which means that it is you who are accusing God of lying, not I.

Now lets look at your bumper sticker. "dead faith". This just means that you are not engaged in a hearty productive discipleship. You are probably backslidden..

Remember where Jesus said "Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye?"

 

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aren' t you trembling, Uncle Wayne? BEHOLD says "you are probably backsliding"

 

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Backslidden

 

[Behold]

I didn't accuse God of any such lie. I quoted scripture... which basically means that you are accusing the Bible of lying... which means that it is you who are accusing God of lying, not I.

Remember where Jesus said "Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye?"

The Grace of God is not something you earned, so its not something you can Keep.

A few questions for you..

Can you be "Un-Born Again"?
I didnt ask you if you can walk away from your faith.
I asked you if you can be "UN-BORN Again".

How Eternal is Eternal Life?

Do you believe that God is in You? How about Christ? And the Holy Spirit?
Is there a verse in the New Testament that says that "Jesus can leave the body and Spirit of a Born again Son of God"?

If you are born again....then you were BIRTHED INTO The Spirit of God, and you are now "ONE" with God and Christ....... do you see that this is beyond undoing?

If you are born again....You have "the gift of Righteousness".....You are become "the righteousness of God, in Christ". So, how Righteous are you?

Do you believe that you are "IN CHRIST"? Then how much sin is in Christ?

Your NT teaches you that "as Jesus is, so are the Born again, in this World".... So, do you believe this verse?

 

[Behold]

aren' t you trembling, Uncle Wayne? BEHOLD says "you are probably backsliding"

All i can do is watch the fruit of someone's behavior on public Christian forum, and then we all know what you are.
See that mirror?
Its crystal clear.

 

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Do they teach you in Seminary to accuse others of DOING THE DEVIL'S WORK if they hold a different doctrine, BEHOLD?

Or accuse someone of being

 

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Backslidden ?

 

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